It's time for some critics.

[Gatts]

Originally Posted by Zhuangzi

Don't bother with HOMM V? I was just investigating the possibility of buying that game. It turns out that Ubisoft are about to release all HOMM V and the 2 expansions in one budget disk (That's Hot range) which will be like $20 for me! So why shouldn't I play HOMM V?

I think I saw a HOMM 3 + 4 complete DVD a while back...

Actually HOMM V 3.1 (Tribes of the EAST - ToE) is all in one pack - it contains the self-sufficient original + 1st datadisk (dwarves) and second datadisk (ToE) - I think its called alone standing - and it is really cheap nowdays, so don't be confused by some "special editions" where you can get some "silver" toys (unless you really wants these toys).

Alos HOMM V 3.1 ToE has many MOD's so you can be sure the fun is 120% of the thrice patched bug-less original (3.1).

Homm V is best online - another reason buying it. (You should be prepared that the scenario becomes very hard very soon, even if playing easy diff -> this is because the maps contain many "traps" and quick save/load will be a must - but as it has map generator and really cool map editor and many many maps for download from fans - hundreds hours of fun goes for sure...

For anyone who has to decide between HOMM V or KB - choose KB (or even better, wait for armored pricness - it will support 3-D googles)

[Zhuangzi]

Originally Posted by Gatts

Actually HOMM V 3.1 (Tribes of the EAST - ToE) is all in one pack - it contains the self-sufficient original + 1st datadisk (dwarves) and second datadisk (ToE) - I think its called alone standing - and it is really cheap nowdays, so don't be confused by some "special editions" where you can get some "silver" toys (unless you really wants these toys).

Alos HOMM V 3.1 ToE has many MOD's so you can be sure the fun is 120% of the thrice patched bug-less original (3.1).

Homm V is best online - another reason buying it. (You should be prepared that the scenario becomes very hard very soon, even if playing easy diff -> this is because the maps contain many "traps" and quick save/load will be a must - but as it has map generator and really cool map editor and many many maps for download from fans - hundreds hours of fun goes for sure...

For anyone who has to decide between HOMM V or KB - choose KB (or even better, wait for armored pricness - it will support 3-D googles)

Thanks for that info, Gatts. I just went out and got a copy of Tribes of the East cheaply, so I am about to play HOMM for the first time. When I load it up it says its version 3.0. So I need a patch that lets me play the original game + first expansion, correct?

EDIT: Okay I am downloading the 3.1 patch (120 mb) but where can I find this mod for the original campaigns? Is it going to be a massive download? Do I need to bother with the original campaign at all or can I dive straight into ToE?

Sorry for the off-topic, mods. We could use an off topic forum to discuss similar games etc.

[Metathron]

@Zhuangzi

About JA3, I read some rumours on a gaming site, and GameSpot has it listed for Q4 2008...But mostly it was just a flippant comment.

As for the HoMM V campaigns: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/original_campaigns.php

Have fun!

[Smash]

First i knew it will end this way with someone posting "go back to homm". Blah i will n/c his iq.
Remind how it started because someone posted that kb has different battle mode that homm so i just clear it that is untrue, now when we know it we can go back to topic?
KB:L give me feeling of low budged game, they just copy-paste nearly everything and want money for it?

So did i and it doesnt make either opinion more credible. Disciples was a joke (difficulty wise not fun wise ) and first time i touched HoMM3 after a couple years again i remembered what i didnt like. All the boring cleaning of huge Maps and the fact that low level units quickly become obsolete. I actually think that HoMM 2 was a better game than 3 as far as balance was concerned.

And after all this is Kings Bounty the Legend not HoMM(3) the Legend. So your comparison doesnt make much sense. Both are good games and i enjoyed KB like no game in a couple years. And honestly no HoMM game had an impressive AI either. And noone asks you to pick just one game. You can actually have both on your Harddrive and play them

And i have both on my hard drive . As i stated above this topic is about what you dislike in kb:l. Leave homm3 alone, its for TBS what Starcraft is for RTS, 10y and no one can beat it.


About d2 ai i know it was easy because of flaws in ai design on adventure mode but ai in battle mode even when fight there maybe looks simple (it's fake expression) ai is still 10x better that this in kb. . Campaign was easy but if you play skirmish with no save, no load rule it was even interesting .

Ok guys let's end this Off Topic.

[Wenla]

I don't see KB as a strategy game but as a tactical (battle) game. My opinion is not (negative) critic, I like this game (IMHO best in HoMM is II).

Just my 2 cents...

Wenla

[Zhuangzi]

Originally Posted by Metathron

@Zhuangzi

About JA3, I read some rumours on a gaming site, and GameSpot has it listed for Q4 2008...But mostly it was just a flippant comment.

As for the HoMM V campaigns: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/original_campaigns.php

Have fun!

Thanks very much for that. I paid Aus $25 for Tribes of the East (which is 1/4 what games cost when they come out here), and now with the mod I have three whole campaigns to play.

So far it seems like a cross between Disciples 2 and KB:TL. Graphics are far inferior to KB:TL though. Combat seems less interesting, but I can see that there will be some castle and resource management in the manner of Disciples 2. I still think KB:TL is the better game (so far) but this will keep me busy for a while. I will be on the lookout for the HOMM 3/4 Complete DVD too. So cheers to those who helped.

[Roman]

KB:L is great, but the Tribes of the East is a great game too and it can be played in multiplayer mode. You won't regret buying it.

There is a LOT of depth to the Tribes of the East. You can play the game at many levels of skill and there are a large number of different viable strategies at different levels of play and depending on what faction you chose.

HOMM 3 was great too - it was a classic, but it is a bit dated now - I think you are better off with HOMM 5 Tribes of the East now. Indeed, HOMM 5 is in many respects a 'remake' of HOMM 3, just like KB:L is a 'remake' of KB. HOMM 4, however, was not good at all and not in the spirit of the rest of the series.

[Zhuangzi]

Thanks. I played the first mission of ToE and thought it was great fun. Then I thought I'd better start on the original campaign and the first three missions were deadly boring (and very easy, even on Hard difficulty). So I think I will go back to ToE.

[Roman]

I thought even the original HOMM V was a respectable game, but they have really improved on it with Tribes of the East. I have actually played through the entire HOMM V campaign (but I have not played the HoF and TotE campaigns, so I cannot really comment on those), but the campaigns are really not the strong point of the series at all- they cannot compare to KB:L in that regard. Do not be deceived by the apparent ease of the HOMM B campaign at the beginning though - it can get pretty tough later on (of course, once you know the tricks of the game, it gets easier, just like KB:L). Not in the first campaign though for sure, but there are six campaigns and they do get progressively more difficult.

The main attractions for me, however, are the various single player scenarios, the random map generator and especially the multiplayer possibilities. I play Tribes of the East for the hot seat multiplayer. It is a family game for me - I play it with my sister and cousins when we meet up over the holidays!

It really is a good game and it is, in fact, through hanging out on some HOMM V/TotE boards that I found out about KB:L. KB:L received a very positive reception there, which is not surprising, given the fact that the games share the same ultimate roots.