Undead only?

[Smash]

Originally Posted by Gatts

My fifth unit is Dark Commander (aka Black Knight)
slow unit but his morale bonus to my undead units is the bonus I like.

Yep - this was my final combination - I had red vamps, red bats, blue vamps, bone dragons, dark knights - but as I am lazy to pay attention, I used to transform accidentally red vamps into red bats - both units of red bats gone FRENZY (bad thing) - so in the labyrinth I changed the red vamps with green dragons.

I failed to understand, what are red bats? Isn't red bats and elder (red) vampires same? Did i missed something? I know that red bats are count as different units but how you make it?

[Gatts]

Originally Posted by Smash

I failed to understand, what are red bats? Isn't red bats and elder (red) vampires same? Did i missed something? I know that red bats are count as different units but how you make it?

OK, I see that you haven't had the luck to find red bats.

Red bats = Ancient Vampire BATS

As you know - you can hire vampires (blue), ancient vampires (red)
Both these units can be "transformed" using thei special ability into bats (who can suck blood)
Now we are neer the point... just read:
This ability works only in combat - hence you will always see normal vampires in your slots - and always start the combat with normal vampires
Nearly there...

When lucky enough - you can find in shops the Vampire bats or Ancient Vampire bats for hire - so they will appear in your slots in form of bats also each combat will start with them in form of bats (of course you can still transorm them into normal vampires/ ancient vampires)

This was exactly what caused my units to go FRENZY - as I had one full stack of ancient vampires and one full stack of ancient vampire bats - when I accidentally transformed the ancient vampires into bats - the game realized I have 200% of same unit - and both these stacks went FRENZY... (stupid me - I coldn't remember that I can only transform the normal Vampires, when I have red bats already - that's why I swapped the ancient vampires with green dragons)

If you are not lucky enough to find bats, of course you should use vampires/ ancient vampires (normal vampires are weaker, but hey! they still suck blood!)

[Smash]

I see. Isn't better to swap elder vampire in your army with necromancers? I know Emerald Dragons are awesome but for undeads only army? What do you think?

[JudgeMan]

I'm using an Undead only army (vamp, ancient vamp, black knight, necro, bone D.) and it's doing very good vs anything living. Like Gatts said, you just let the vampire (in bat form) do everything because you won't loose any. Necromancers are really useful. They have 10 init with rina zombie and dark commander, can magic shackle a lvl 5 unit if you want, spawn undead stacks out of corpse 3 times and plague everything (reduce hp, att, def by a %). Your undead troops get it, are not affected, but can spread it on other stacks when it wears off.

[Smash]

So ultimate would be something like blue and red vampires, necromancers, black knights, bone dragons? Maybe swap bone with archers?