Will there be an online community for COD after BOS?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chivas

COD will evolve with TF just as it would have with a dedicated developer, only slower, with a part time community TF development crew.
Oleg and Luthier's development team built a very complex sim engine, that was being designed for years of feature/content upgrades. Oleg wasn't able to finish the sim engine, but everyday TF is getting a better and better handle on its complexity, and its almost limitless potential.
The COD game engine currently has no rival in its capabilities, but it will be interesting to see if the ROF game engine can be upgraded by the BOS developers. I see no reason why it couldn't, as all game engines are just a bunch of arranged 1's and 0's.

Therin lies it's limitation.

Originally Posted by robtek

The secret is, and always was, to arrange those pesky one's and zeros to get the most out of the available computing power.
As it seems the foundation of the CoD engine is so sound that, after cleaning out the bugs, it offers the possibility to realize Oleg's dream of a multi purpose, high fidelity sim engine.
As the problems with expanding software mostly come from the built in limitations, the 777-1c- devs have quite a lot to do the reach the possibilities of the CoD engine from their RoF base.
Lets see how the reach their goal, that far it looks good.

I don't know about that.. I think the implementation of BoS was a choice.. not a non choice based on engine limitations.. I think, and especially after I have now seen the Alpha at 32% .. that this engine can do what CoD does .. but in reality it doesn't have to do what CoD does.. it just has to do what it does well enough.. and it does just that and it will only get better.

Originally Posted by Pips

With all the effort that Team Fusion has put into this game, COD has gone ahead in leaps and bounds. To my mind it's arguably the most enjoyable WWII sim out there.
And heaven only knows what these guys are capable of developing in the next 6 months. Yes, BOS will definitely be on my 'to get' list. But it'll face extreme competition from COD when it finally does come out.

I don't think so. Competition yes.. but extreme? No... and even that will fade over time. BoS will face more competition form DCS:WWII than from CoD .. As far as the masses go and establishing a large community is concerned, CoD's days are numbered unless it gets picked up by someone. Even if it was someone who could pay TF a livable wage to work on it.. but in their spare time, unless they are all either single guys with no significant others and no lives to speak of, or a lot more guys than there are (and that becomes problematic as well.. too many workers..) there is only so much that TF can do and time is not on their side as far as the masses go. That is the reality CoD is facing. It takes absolutely nothing away from the work they have done.. and it will probably be around for a long long time.. but it will not be a major player in the genre outside of a cadre of dedicated fans.

Originally Posted by DUI

Looking at the current screenshots and videos BoS will have a hard time graphic-wise with its already rather outdated graphic engine. Naturally, cost-wise as well with CloD being nearly free ($ 10, often only for $ 5) in comparison with the high investment of $ 100 for BoS. The important part will be the general flight feeling and the physic and damage models. To me a major aspect will be its capability to allow for big campaign missions and a huge amount of objects in the air and on the ground - making it a real simulation and more than a dogfighting game. To my knowledge a strong weakpoint of RoF - so let's see how BoS will perform.

I agree with some of this ... but the graphics of BoS are pretty darned good.. Not dated at all IMO .. just different from CoD. Mind you it is still a WIP by a paid team that has hundreds of man hours a week to devote solely to it's development. I think that at this point though.. TF needs to consider coming up with some more aircraft.. not a lot.. but even one .. that is not a variant of something already in the sim yet done to the same or very close quality .. if not better.. would send a message that would speak volumes about the potential for CoD's future and TFs role in it beyond the great work they have already done.


This is just my opinion .. and it accounts for what it does... I have no crystal ball .. but BoS even in it's current state is a very interesting piece of kit and it counters some of the basic things that CoD did very well very well.

[Sokol1]

COD will evolve with TF just as it would have with a dedicated developer, only slower, with a part time community TF development crew.

In certain aspect it is no bad, the developer have compromises that sometimes limit creation, see many things that TD put in il-2:'46 that OM already say "is not possible", sample radio navigation.

Is fool this "my game is better" thing circulating around foruns.

CloD - BoB scenery, maybe Malta.

Bo$ - Eastern Front mid war.

DCS WWII - Western front late war.

Mmm, we need Pacific.

Sokol1

[WTE_Galway]

So whats the CoD community like these days ?

I gave up on CoD early in the piece because the community seem to be a bunch of of girly whiners who complained about everything and were never happy, throwing tantrums at every little problem, which kinda took all the fun out of the game for me (unlike IL2 where people seemed very tolerant and there was something of a team spirit).

I am asking as I have been playing EVE lately (every one there is a rabid sociopath instead) but am thinking of reinstalling.

[Continu0]

Hi Galway

In my opinion, the mood is much better now. The people who were constantly unhappy with the game have left, the ones who are really into it, are still here. And the most amazing thing: the community is growing due to the Team Fusion-Mods!

I really recommend giving CloD a try with the Team Fusion Mods! You can find support and everything at http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php.

Welcome back!

[SlipBall]

definitely worth another try, the community that remains is very kicked back and mellow

[Rickusty]

yeah, as the other friends have said..
those who remained here are the "true believers" in some ways...

Team Fusion mod is a MUST though... it literally transforms the game into a gem... you must download it and try some mission online.
It's a blast.

And IMO nothing compares (yet) to the level of authenticity and details CloD has... not many aircraft, but , God, how realistically they are modeled. Cockpits are a work of art, and it really seems you're inside a real plane.
And its DM is the best, hand down.

I truly love this game. It has huge potential... too bad it was not loved much, due to its many faults. But it remains my preferred sim. (and I've been playing since... what? Tornado, the 1993 videogame. By the way, does anybody know this simulator? It was AMAZING...)

I really hope a future mod will create the early clashes in the Mediterranean and around Malta... it would be surely a fantastic occasion to fly in a Cr42 or a Glad over the sea, escorting convoys, hunting for submarines, clashing against torpedo bombers ... (it's great to dream a little bit, isn't it).

Anyway, as previously said, give the Team Fusion's Mod a try... you won't be disappointed.

Cheers

[Chivas]

There is little doubt that COD will live on for quite sometime. Oleg and Luthier have developed an almost limitless sandbox for a mod teams and mission/campaign builders like Team Fusion to create new features, environments, and aircraft for the online and offline community. The BOS developers say they want to provide a Mod friendly environment, but it remains to be seen how BOS will fair in that regard. Either way I see no conflict, as over the next few years we will be able to fly a couple of different Eastern Front Theaters from the BOS developers, and BOB, probably Malta/N. Africa from COD/Team Fusion.