Landing the Mosquito?

[Raven Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Notorious M.i.G.

I also noticed that it's a lot easier if you have the gunsight up to give you a reference as to where your nose is pointed. Otherwise you tend to guesstimate a lot.

Thanks I'll have a few watches of that video and make some notes.

BTW how do you turn on the gunsight in the Mosquito, on my copy it's turned off, and I notice the guns are aimed to a point just left of the gunsight, kind of in the middle between the edge of the gunsight glass/plastic bit and the edge of the cockpit window on that side? (I'm running the latest DBW and TFM on patch 4.10.1m if that makes any difference)

All the other planes I fly the gunsight is on by default and the guns are zeroed in the middle of the gunsight (to 500m distance).

[JtD]

Press Shift+F1. But I'd recommend to use the not gunsight view, and raise your point of view for the best possible view over the nose (6DoF, you can use mouse). Keep some small part of the reflection in the sight, for reference, but don't have it centred there.

Check attached screens for different viewpoint, grab0007 is gunsight centred. It offers the worst view over the nose. grab0006 is possibly the easiest for landing, and grab0008 offers the best view. (Yes, I use a vertical monitor. I tend to read a lot and in game I get a good view at the instruments all the time.)

[Raven Morpheus]

Interesting view you have there.

I can't replicate it. I play on a landscape 21" widescreen LG TV and I set my FOV to 110% as that seems the most appropriate for me in most planes.

Plus in the Mosquito when I press Shift+F1 it zooms in and centres for the gunsight, but I can zoom out again to 110%. That's very odd because in other planes (mostly single prop fighters) the aiming reticule is displayed by default.

I also can't seem to raise the point of view up, I tried pressing S which I've assigned to raising the seat but that does nothing - any info on how to raise the view up in the Mosquito?

[JtD]

You don't raise the seat to get what I got in my pictures, you move the point of view. This can be done through track IR, or, as in my case, by assigning controls and move the viewpoint with the mouse. I use my mouse scroll wheel to raise my head and my right click+mouse movement to move around.

[Raven Morpheus]

I do occasionally use FacetrackNOIR which acts like TrackIR (even uses a dummy TrackIR.exe) so I know what you mean about using that to do it, but I find it too twitchy and I can't seem to dial it in so that it doesn't "twitch" when I'm not actually moving my head. It's OK but nowhere near as good as I've seen Freetrack or TrackIR and quite often just ends up being a pain in the proverbial

But excuse me for being a bit hard of thinking - where in the controls menu would I set the controls that you describe?

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Raven Morpheus

But excuse me for being a bit hard of thinking - where in the controls menu would I set the controls that you describe?

At the very bottom of the Controls menu. I use a mouse setup similar to what JtD describes, it works quite well.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by Raven Morpheus

I do occasionally use FacetrackNOIR which acts like TrackIR (even uses a dummy TrackIR.exe) so I know what you mean about using that to do it, but I find it too twitchy and I can't seem to dial it in so that it doesn't "twitch" when I'm not actually moving my head. It's OK but nowhere near as good as I've seen Freetrack or TrackIR and quite often just ends up being a pain in the proverbial

But excuse me for being a bit hard of thinking - where in the controls menu would I set the controls that you describe?

You don't need TrackIR for landing. You need it for locating the airport. Once located, and once you're roughly lined up, switch to wide view and make landing happen. Start in an altitude of 500 or 600 meters, flaps down, gear down, speed not exceeding 240 kph, distance to the airfield about 1 minute. Watch your climb/sink indicator. It should be between 2 and 3 feet per second on your approach (maintaining a speed of about 200 kph), then when you're 'over the fence' and in an altitude of 30 to 50 meters, level out, loosing some speed (down to 170 or 160 kph) and reducing your sink rate to between 1 and 0 feet per second (the less, the better for a smooth landing).

[Raven Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

At the very bottom of the Controls menu. I use a mouse setup similar to what JtD describes, it works quite well.

Erm, OK, I still can't find it.

All I can see towards the end of the list of controls that adjust the view is the set of Look controls under Snap View and the set of Pan View controls below those.

And I've had a play with Look Up and Pan View Up and they don't work to raise the view up, Look Up doesn't even work unless I press F9 and then it does the same as Pan View Up which rotates the view upwards, rather than moving it straight up as though you were raising your head.



EDIT - I've just read this - http://simhq.net/downloads/air_comba...1_Guide_RC.pdf

It says "Raise with mouse is achieved with the mouse wheel and Activate Mouse Move Mode button pressed" and says this is set under Head Movement, but when I go to look at my controls I have no section marked Head Movement?!

That looks like the readme for v4.11m and I'm getting the feeling that because I run 4.10.1m I'm SoL on that feature. Shame, that probably would have helped, but DBW/TFM wouldn't work for me in 4.11...

Originally Posted by sniperton

You don't need TrackIR for landing. You need it for locating the airport.

Thanks I'll take your advice on-board. I don't have TrackIR though, I can't afford it, nor do I like the idea of wearing a silly hat/headband, that's why I went with a PS3 Eye cam and FacetrackNoIR.

But as I said FacetrackNoIR isn't all that great for me so far, so I just stick to using the Pan View left/right controls that I've mapped to the d-pad style thumbstick on my flight stick.