4-12 wish list (Merged)

[Bearcat]

RRR? I could take it or leave it.. but I can see where it could be a good thing.. but as far as realism goes... Well.. I am sitting at my desk peering through a 24" monitor with the TV on in the background and a beer on my desk... so ... realism is a myth.. I certainly would not want to wait 12 minutes between RRR.. but it would be interesting to be able to keep the same plane and stay in the same world for an entire night of flying.. As long as I had to make a decent landing and taxi to a fuel truck ... It'd be ok with me.. Power ups? No comparison.. Power ups and RRR are two entirely different things..

[Tuphlandng]

I have to agree Bearcat Hard to call a PC flight sim realistic when You can stop to go to the rest room and Im not sitting in a tub of Av Gas with a road flare in my pocket when I crash ether.
I do feel t would add to some missions and although not needed it is a fun option and isn't everything an option in IL2??
My monitor is a 22" Not that it means anything Just one deference between players of the game.
I enjoy flying with friends completing an objective and returning to base.
The latest Zuti mod the map builder needs to place correct items on the map for each action
Ammo boxes for re-arming
Fuel cans or tanks for re-fueling
And the correct Maintenance builds for re-pair
And the distance can be adjusted by the map maker
Also time for each action to be completed
I think It would be Really cool to request Re arm and Re fuel then wait fir the trucks to show up but that may be to much I think for some

Honestly Im not sure how many players would benefit from this option But I do beleave
If it was implemented In a Stock patch Im sure many that haven't tried it because it is currently a Modification to the game would enjoy this option.

Not to mention Being able to steal fuel and ammo from the enemy side of the map before you get caught

Salute Barry Good to see you again sir

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

but as far as realism goes... Well.. I am sitting at my desk peering through a 24" monitor with the TV on in the background and a beer on my desk... so ... realism is a myth.

As to the beer, soda and other bottles were not a rarity in wwii cockpits, and many pilots were even smoking during flight (e.g. the Americans at Midway, or Galland who had an ashtray installed for his cigar). The wine glass on my desk is really a bit anachronistic, I admit.
Otherwise I agree. The reference to realism in a game is somewhat paradoxical:
"If I were not shortsighted, I would see both far-away enemy planes and my instruments much better in real life than I do on my display."
"If I had no vertigo", or "If I didn't tolerate G-forces so badly", then "I would perceive the general flight environment much better in real life than I do in this sim".

[idefix44]

May be is it better to replace the word realism by immersion.

When I'm in the cockpit, from spawning to refly, I try to be a WWII pilot and not a 2013 gamer...
It is possible even with a soda bottle and a ashtray near the joy. Just a state of mind.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by idefix44

May be is it better to replace the word realism by immersion.

When I'm in the cockpit, from spawning to refly, I try to be a WWII pilot and not a 2013 gamer...

The problem is that the two 'states of mind' interfere. You may want to call it immersion, but 'reality" always comes back through the window. Exercise one, switch off the speedbar and try to land a Re.2000:
- Can you land it? - possibly;
- Do you see the speed gauge? - not;
- Is it realistic? - hardly, but who knows;
- Does it disturb your 'immersion'? - maybe (so far you unconsciously think it's unrealistic).

[Tuphlandng]

Funny who a simple request turns into a discussion about realism in a game
I myself enjoy landing and re fueling a lot more then just re-spawning. If that UN-realistic Ok If re spawning is more re-realistic Ok
I fly IL2 for the fun of it Not for realism or realistic
I would really like to see the R/R/R option incorporated in a future patch
And sense this is the 4.12 request I think it may be to late for this patch

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

As Zuti helped us with his MDS files, RRR was one of the most incompatible part of his work. It also had a lower priority than other parts. As we didn't find a good and fast solution, we simply left it out. Maybe we will implement it one day, there is no problem to have it as gameplay option. Even if it is still controverse among players.

[magot]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

As Zuti helped us with his MDS files, RRR was one of the most incompatible part of his work. It also had a lower priority than other parts. As we didn't find a good and fast solution, we simply left it out. Maybe we will implement it one day, there is no problem to have it as gameplay option. Even if it is still controverse among players.

Yes but only RR not RRR. Repair never, it´s unreal in realtime of mission.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by Tuphlandng

Funny who a simple request turns into a discussion about realism in a game

Funny, but not strange. This is a simulation game, and simulation is 'an operation in which a real situation is represented in another form'.