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Old 01-29-2013, 10:08 PM
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Over the years I've had the opportunity to fly a number of aircraft types that were available with different engines and, consequently, weights, and while I would agree that what you say is correct in specific detail it's been my impression that planes retain their basic personalities regardless of the engines of varying power that they have. I wouldn't use the current aircraft to define the types flight model in game but I wouldn't dismiss the general characteristics of the same planes out of hand, either.
WW2 fighter aircraft would have been flown past thier recommended flight envelope in combat, this is the difference between flying within the recommended safety specifications and fighting for your life not caring what your putting the engine and airframe through.

At these extremes, weight and power are going to make a difference in the way the aircraft performs, these aircraft being referred to (Mig3 I-16) are simply flying museums and not in thier original combat formats and can never be taken to thier original combat performance outputs, so there should be no comparison, nice video and good to see them flying but data from those aircraft should be kept in perspective regarding historical performance and current build specification.


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Old 01-30-2013, 02:02 AM
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Well Pokrishkin(sp?) Said the mig was a cow under 4000 meters.
So there.
Guess we better stick with period data, pilots opinions are just that-opinions.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:32 AM
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To me, the key point of the interview is how leading edge slats give the MiG low speed handling characteristics that give a skilled pilot confidence in it, which the I-16 does not.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:52 PM
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Considering the interviewer's reaction, I think we might see some incredible MiG-3s in the game.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:35 PM
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IIRC wasn't there a general problem with all Russian aircraft engine performance at altitudes > 3000m ?
This being the case I find the comments odd.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:48 PM
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IIRC wasn't there a general problem with all Russian aircraft engine performance at altitudes > 3000m ?
Not that I know of. Do you remember where you heard that?
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:03 PM
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Not that I know of. Do you remember where you heard that?
Nah, sorry.. that's why I wasn't sure. Vaguely remember something about the Axis a/c always being at higher alts, maybe this was just a tactical thing from the attacker's POV.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:36 PM
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IIRC wasn't there a general problem with all Russian aircraft engine performance at altitudes > 3000m ?
This being the case I find the comments odd.
I think they were designed to work better at mid-low altitudes, but I have not heard of a general high-alt problem. The MiG 3 was designed as a high altitude interceptor, I think in 1941 it held high-alt speed records over even the 109. Not very useful in the low-alt battles over the Eastern Front though.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:05 AM
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MiG-3 was built as a high-alt fighter/interceptor. But that means extra weight in supercharger or supercharger optimized for high alt not below.

Flown carefully the MiG-3 we have is an early-war Russian speed star but don't get slow and think you're going to turn hard.
OTOH compared to the 109F, it is lesser overall.

What did Pokrishkin(sp?) say about the early LaGG's? Yak-1 is light stick but barely armed and ammo'ed and gasping above low alt.

If you haven't seen Wings of Russia then find this series on Youtube and think about getting the full-definition DVD set:


See what they say about Russian GPW fighters and other planes including LL bombers. I think they are very fair in their assessments. In truth they put the (rah-rah revised) History Channel to the shame it deserves.
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