Announcement of the game "IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad"

[kestrel79]

I think you guys need to chill out. We barely know ANYTHING, be patient. Read the short FAQ. It will be a newer and modified RoF engine. So I'm sure it will be better than RoF currently in most ways.

I think this is pretty awesome. 777 studios does a great job with news and updates, keeping people informed.

Yes I'm sure we'll have to shell out some more cash similar to RoF. But wake up, this isn't the 90's sim market. Sims are VERY complex, yet a SMALL part of the market. They do need to make money somehow.

I'm looking forward to this, 777 Studios and Maddox Talent combined? Sounds like a simmers dream to me.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by kestrel79

Yes I'm sure we'll have to shell out some more cash similar to RoF. But wake up, this isn't the 90's sim market. Sims are VERY complex, yet a SMALL part of the market. They do need to make money somehow.

I'm looking forward to this, 777 Studios and Maddox Talent combined? Sounds like a simmers dream to me.

+1

Well said.

[pirke]

this will be new engine ?

http://www.outerra.com/forum/index.php?topic=637.0

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by pirke

this will be new engine ?

http://www.outerra.com/forum/index.php?topic=637.0

No. The Digital Nature engine, i.e., the same one ROF uses.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by kestrel79

I'm looking forward to this, 777 Studios and Maddox Talent combined? Sounds like a simmers dream to me.

A little birdy told me the only Maddox team members are the modelers to transpose models over to the ROF engine. I doubt we see any improvements to what ROF currently offers. If they try and put the complexities into the ROF engine that are currently in Clod, it will just be that much more full of limitations. I would love to be proved wrong. But when anyone brings up those limitations on the ROF forums currently, threads are locked or deleted.

Assuming they are magically gonna be able to turn around what they can't for ROF is a pretty poor assumption. And it just adds to it when you can't even talk about those limitations now. Do they know how to fix it now what they couldn't for 4 years of ROF? I doubt it. I will of course wait to be able to load up the ME and do a test. That will determine if I ever buy it in the 1st place.

[addman]

Great news! Finally we can leave this CloD mess behind and start a-fresh, good luck and all the best to the new IL-2 team! Byebye banana!

[Ailantd]

From FAQ:

"The Digital Nature engine ... has advanced physics, realistic flight-modeling, progressive damage modeling, complex ballistics, detailed environmental modeling, detailed terrain modeling and superb graphics rendering..."

Compared with CoD engine, nothig of this is true by far.

I have tryed RoF many times as I like WWI planes, but always with the same result. I can´t get hooked with it´s cartoon and off look. I hope they can improve the engine to match CoD new standards, in physics, damage, render distance, CEM, planes and terrain detail and awasome lighting, but I seriosly doubt it. Anyway the pay for every pieze of the sim model ala RoF is a no go for me. So I´m out.

This is the Oleg`s vision dead. It was a very similar vision to mine. So I´moving ahead, but no with BoS as it is planed now.


See you in the skyes... in the CoD skyes of course.

[ems9]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

From FAQ:

"The Digital Nature engine ... has advanced physics, realistic flight-modeling, progressive damage modeling, complex ballistics, detailed environmental modeling, detailed terrain modeling and superb graphics rendering..."

Compared with CoD engine, nothig of this is true by far.

I have tryed RoF many times as I like WWI planes, but always with the same result. I can´t get hooked with it´s cartoon and off look. I hope they can improve the engine to match CoD new standards, in physics, damage, render distance, CEM, planes and terrain detail and awasome lighting, but I seriosly doubt it. Anyway the pay for every pieze of the sim model ala RoF is a no go for me. So I´m out.

This is the Oleg`s vision dead. It was a very similar vision to mine. So I´moving ahead, but no with BoS as it is planed now.


See you in the skyes... in the CoD skyes of course.

+1

[TomcatViP]

Sad news.

For me it's out of question to return to RoF Business model. I don't see myself going after German pilots strap and Russian belly buttons as if it was the most wanted mods by the community just because it increase your virtual pilot resistance to G and nausea... Or whatever can spin out of their marketing leader

Enough is enough.

As for the game engine, beside what was promised and did not survive the first weeks on the market (FM, credible atmosphere, realism, historically accurate FM and WM...) , RoF game engine was eavily Hacked even before I had the opportunity to run it on my PC. And this with no sign of concern from Rof's devs (contrary to what we hve seen with CoD)

So RiP CoD (?). The battle is over...

[addman]

I see a lot of people are already judging a game that hasn't even been released yet maybe it's better to wait for the final product before initiating whining mode. Seriously you guys....

Oh BTW, I wrote the following for another thread but I'll just paste it in here for convenience.

I get the impression that there are still people living in an illusionary PC games landscape where a 40€ high-production cost/low sales niche game is financially viable. Have you tried PlanetSide 2? If not, download it -for free- from Steam, play it and try to comprehend that 1c is doing this to make money. The games industry is not some kind of charity ball where people sit and work their butts of for free.

Imagine if 777 only made RoF, kept supporting and updating it for years for free without any pay-per-plane/item system. Do you really think that they would be selling thousands upon thousands of copies of the game every month for several years sustained? No they wouldn't, no game does that, especially not flightsims which are the niche of the niche these days, except a select few super popular titles like Call of Duty etc. It's so easy to understand it, yet some of you can't grasp it. Without a steady cash-flow, how in the world would they be able to continue? No matter how good a game is, it will only sell a certain amount copies, period! You may hate it or love it, that doesn't matter, this IS the only way to keep a small gaming genre alive. Nobody's doing it to be evil, they do it for the necessity of profit, the cornerstone of capitalism. I guess at least the Americans on here should be able to grasp this.

I would like it to be as before where would get an expansion pack (which is basically just a bunch of DLC content packed into one really) every second year or so but I get why they are taking this route. So try to be a little supportive to the "new" developers in their future endeavours, many of you stood tall defending MG in every single "whining" thread before, how come you are so anti when we actually get someone who steps in and try to salvage the awesome IL-2 series that we have all played and loved for years? You should be grateful that someone took it upon themselves to develop the one thing we all love.