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Old 11-30-2012, 12:15 AM
Skoshi Tiger Skoshi Tiger is offline
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LOL so you bolded the part about how what im talking about has NOTHINg to do with religion....yet still believe that im disparaging you based on your religion or faith??

my interpretation is the right one....by the way and its quite obvious...

they had to specifically say that rights do not originate with government...the best way to do this would be to establish (in the first legal document of the US) that our rights are INNATE or that they come from our creator...notice they said "creator" not god, jesus, yehweh ect....nothing to do with religion or faith...

the reason for this is cuz governments up to this point in history (and still today) think that they can dictate the rights the people have and take them away at will...if this was not the case....we the people would not have rights....all we would have is privileges granted to us by govt that can be taken away at anytime...




also you are a hypocrite...your statement:

"The Flying Spaghetti Monster gave me rights??????

First I've heard of it! Cool! "

was also obviously meant to be disparaging towards me....but i guess for someone like you its ALWAYS appropriate to ridicule anyone who mentions god a creator or something of that nature....


i bring up a creator, you bring up flying spaghetti monster...hmmm i wonder what your intent was there....


you are just a hypocrite and a fool...it seems that i was right in that assessment as well...

im just pointing out the hypocrisy...you are the one who has thin skin like a baby crying about spilt milk...
TK, you use the word 'hypocrisy' several times but I don't think you are using it in the right context.

An example of hypocrisy would be to extol the virtue of free speech and then denigrate anyone one else that says something that doesn't agree with you. Now that would be hypocritical!

You state that the US Constitution (which was written by people with a predominantly Christian background) specifically mentions "their creator", (so they could be inclusive to all the citizens of the US regardless of their faith or belief systems - which, when you think about it, was an amazingly modern thinking and virtuous thing to do), but then then you denigrate anyone who doesn't share the same beliefs and faith as yourself. Hey, there is a word starting with "Hypo" for that one too!

Thankyou TK! If there is one thing I have learnt from this thread it’s that if I ever get a chance to travel to the US I’ll be secure in my knowledge that my freedom of speech is guaranteed under the US Constitution (See note #1) and I won’t be persecuted for the expression of my faith. Oh! And to always carry a .50cal Desert Eagle in the glove box because the guy with the biggest gun gets to merge first!

Sweet!


Note #1 As a guest in any country - freedom of speech guaranteed - or not - I would still feel a great responsibility to abide by the unwritten laws of accepting hospitality and try my best to remember I was a guest and not to abuse that freedom of speech! No one likes a loud mouth foriener stomping about shooting their mouth off!

Last edited by Skoshi Tiger; 11-30-2012 at 01:49 AM.
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