mind controlling summoned units:O

[namad]

the beholder ability doesn't give them control of the unit at all, it only allows them to pre-select an action for the unit before confirming the ability then see it carried out (at least IIRC) so it works a bit like the selection in say the demonologist life ability, wherein you pick a unit to force to do an action, then you tell it who to attack, and that's all it can do.


the beholder therefore cannot do things like make your unit waste his abilities, that's why it works on celestial guards, they're not immune to abilities or anything they're just immune to status conditions.

[Razorflame]

hmm you don't understand do u?

when the beholder hypnotises someone it's a status effect

and since it get's removed right away from the celestial guard

I should be the one that could control it again

but i couldn't the COMPUTER (when the celestial guards were mine again) moved them


i didn't have control on them they just attack the devilfish

[camelotcrusade]

After some observation I think their debuff only clears when Celestial Guards take a proper turn. If for some reason they go out of turn, which seems to include having someone else control them - it doesn't go off and their debuff stays on. It's similar to how if you control the only unit an AI hero has then he doesn't get to cast a spell because he doesn't get a turn.

So, I think it's WAI and should just have a description that indicates this happens at the start of their turn. I have also seen poison cloud reapply its poison to them and hurt them before they can actually go "on their turn" and wipe it.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

After some observation I think their debuff only clears when Celestial Guards take a proper turn. If for some reason they go out of turn, which seems to include having someone else control them - it doesn't go off and their debuff stays on. It's similar to how if you control the only unit an AI hero has then he doesn't get to cast a spell because he doesn't get a turn.

So, I think it's WAI and should just have a description that indicates this happens at the start of their turn. I have also seen poison cloud reapply its poison to them and hurt them before they can actually go "on their turn" and wipe it.

From Armored Princess,

I'm pretty sure that Celestial guard and Witch Hunter's immediately remove buff/debuff on cast.

Only the Archdemon does it "on his turn".

I wonder if they wanted to change the behavior... I think it might be a bug though.

[Razorflame]

in either case it's very strange