The Last Patch Didn't Fix The Game

[lokitexas]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Well, i think that the devs can make the best combat flight sim ever:



Just that deserves one year of wait and my money spend. If you call this "unfinished" ou think it's a piece of crap, i don't think so, i like this software A LOT!

Bye!

So if they can make a nice DM its a complete game? Way to set your expectation bar, on what a great sim is.

Glad you can enjoy the game....doesnt change the fact its still unfinished, and support is over for it.

DCS has just as impressive DM. Also is complete, and still being updated, added to, and working as advertised. See that is the difference.

[SharpeXB]

The lack of a mappable zoom axis makes me so angry every time I try and play the game I give up.
It just shows how incompetent 1C is as a developer and I have no faith now in anything they promise or do.
The best way to improve the sequel would be to have 777 or Eagle Dynamics do it.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

The lack of a mappable zoom axis makes me so angry every time I try and play the game I give up.
It just shows how incompetent 1C is as a developer and I have no faith now in anything they promise or do.
The best way to improve the sequel would be to have 777 or Eagle Dynamics do it.

The fact that YOU can't assign an incremental, smooth and functional zoom axis/button just shows how YOU are incompetent.

[SharpeXB]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Well, i think that the devs can make the best combat flight sim ever:



Just that deserves one year of wait and my money spend. If you call this "unfinished" ou think it's a piece of crap, i don't think so, i like this software A LOT!

Bye!

Nice eye candy of a damage model in an otherwise unplayable game

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

Nice eye candy of a damage model in an otherwise unplayable game

"Unplayable" for you... More nice gameplay, fun and SMOOTH ZOOM WITH JUST UP/DOWN HAT BUTTONS!!!

[Kwiatek]

I cant make smooth ZOOM change in my Saitek Profiler beacuse simply fact is that it doesnt have stupid mouse up and down function. I dont want to use any other joystick software to make it work. Im sure it would be easy to make it normal way by 1C like in other sims expecially such fuction exist in game just someone incompetency make it stupid way.

Other stupid thing for me is " loosen belts " which casue less head movement during G manouvers. Cant imagine that figher pilot during combat try to loseen belts for a second for better aiming then i a second make it tight to get better view. I wonder who got such stupid idea.

Still FM for planes is unfinished, poor high alts performacne, planes dont reach their maximum service celling and still bugs with Merlin engines ( RPMs jerrking at some alts, not historical power settings for Merlin XII).

Still planes visibility and dissapering at short disctance wasn't fixed.

Still online gameplay is not smooth, there are a lot of stutters ( beta RC 2 was more smooth for me)

Thats why i think 1C relased too quick final patch not fixing these things. I was really shocked that they relase such quick final patch after RC2. They just give up it too early and want we will wait year or two years for maby fixing these things.

It would be really better for 1C to safe some resources to fix most annoying bugs and things in CLOD before BOM realase.

Sry but im so dissapointment with still unfinished game and 1C decision to not make any patch before BOM

[SharpeXB]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

"Unplayable" for you... More nice gameplay, fun and SMOOTH ZOOM WITH JUST UP/DOWN HAT BUTTONS!!!

How are you accomplishing the zoom?
I'm still looking for an axis and not buttons.
The only way I understand this can be done is with 3rd party software that allows you to assign buttons or axis control to the mouse axis. And it still requires a modifier button otherwise this would affect your mouse in the cockpit.

It's ridiculous to have to go through all this to get a basic command that all other flight sims have. It leaves me with no confidence in 1Cs ability to develop anything correctly since they can't get this right.

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

Nice eye candy of a damage model in an otherwise unplayable game

how do you have those damage decals on? from my understanding there off...not working..

[RickRuski]

Chivas
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There is no chance there will be a demo. They don't have the time or money to produce one. Like I said in many previous posts, you will have to make a decision based on reviews you trust.
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Sorry Chivas I don't agree with you, they will have to do something to win back the trust and a time limited demo (or an open beta) would be the way to go. Microsoft has time limited betas for some software so where is the problem.
You have also stated that we should go on reviews by those that we trust with the sequel, who do we trust?. A lot of those posting in the forums could be classed as "fan boys", I certainly wouldn't trust their opinions. After seeing how the supporters of the Il2 series have been hung out to dry with the C.o.D. I certainly won't trust the developers with the sequel without proof, their specs will no longer mean anything to those who have waited 18 months only to be told that C.o.D. is finished.

To the developers: -

SHOW US THE PROOF
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Posted by Chivas: -

Microsoft can afford to have all the demos it would like. The new IL-2 developement has neither the time or the money to waste on a Demo. I didn't say to trust fanboy reviews, I said find one you could trust, maybe check out the reviewers that gave COD poor reviews last time and see if things have changed. Its all common sense, use it. There will be plenty of reviews, you should be able to figure it out.
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I don't think that the new Il2 development can afford not to, at least it would give the team a wider base to find the faults before releasing the sequel to the public.
Give us an open beta or a playable time limited demo, either will be better than nothing. What do you have against that type of system apart from cost to the team? (it may end up being more benificial than not).
Is it that your'e worried that the result would mean the demise of the current Il2 series? or that too many faults would be found delaying further the release of the sequel.
Better to find most of the problems before another disaster hits, it would also get the community involved and supportive of the sequels (don't think that there won't be problems with the sequel, after 18 months of development with C.o.D. there are still problems that haven't been addressed).
With a new GUI and probably a revamped engine people will hold back and wait to see what has happened with the sequel, (not excactly what the developers and the investors would want) nobody in their right mind will jump in this time without some proof.

The reviewers that gave their opinions on C.o.D. certainly didn't find the problems that arose after release, certainly not things like CTD's, no dx9 support, no Sli/ Xfire support etc. The lack of dx9 support also ment no xp support (or problems with it). Now we have the problem of Windows 8. It is obvious from the lack of communication from the developers that we now have two sets of windows (xp and 8 ) that currently aren't considered worth the trouble.
Dear o dear how much worse can things get??.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by lokitexas

I understand people trying to be positive, but there is a fine line between positive and utter denial.

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What makes you think that the devs that couldnt put CLoD together, after over a year, will have any more luck with the next game? Ever think they just dont know how? I personally do. I dont think they are capable to making a working game.

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Very true. I really can't grasp, not at all, where this fantatic faith regarding BoM, and how it will fix everything, even be able to brew you an 1-A cup of coffee and give you a good massage in long transfer flights, is coming from...

If I had such great, believing disciples when implementing my plans to be the benevolent dictator of Europe, this will become a real cakewalk!