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Old 11-01-2012, 08:21 PM
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If someone has some conflicting information to backup their views that the 109s LES weren't spring actuated, I'd be interested to see it.
I've pushed the slats in and out on a Buchon . No springs on them and they are pretty similar to a 109

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Old 11-02-2012, 01:38 PM
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I clipped the following info from the wikipedia
Wikipedia is by far the worst source for any information. You might as well ask a stranger in the street. You can actually find contradictions on the same page on most things on wiki if you look hard enough.... Sometimes not even that hard.

Like you, I also found this out the hard way.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:29 AM
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I think the aerodynamic effect of Bf-109´s slats, is bad modeled in CloD.

I was watching the Bf-109 flying in Berlin last September, and he did very fast maneuvers without going into stall, or spins.
It´s a very beautifull airplane

You can see the video here:
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:45 AM
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Slats do not prevent stalls or spins they simply delay a stall and allow a higher angle of attack, just because an aircraft has slats it does not mean you can just pull it around without penalty.

The 109 in the video didn't stall or spin because the pilot didn't take it to the limits.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:33 AM
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yes, bongodriver, good news, we're all positive now about that fact, and how slats work (and were for some time, I think.).

Back to my original question: I tested a little bit in an E-4B and, besides seeing the slats actually moving for the first time, I noticed (subjectively, of course) a somewhat improved handling at slow speeds. So, to answer my own question: Yes, perhaps the LES are probably working now. If they are properly tuned to reflect RL-Performance, I do not know, however.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:32 PM
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Slats do not prevent stalls or spins they simply delay a stall and allow a higher angle of attack, just because an aircraft has slats it does not mean you can just pull it around without penalty.

The 109 in the video didn't stall or spin because the pilot didn't take it to the limits.
I agree with you on that first .. but I'm sure that with a Bf-109E in the CloD, you can not do some maneuvers as in reality, (such as, closed scissors, or Immelmann turn) at speeds flight from reality, because the aircraft enters itself in a spin unreal and unrecoverable.
We need to improve the Bf-109 FM more accurately.
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