Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik > Daidalos Team discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-22-2012, 05:10 AM
Aviar's Avatar
Aviar Aviar is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 545
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuco22 View Post
It would be nice for small fixes, but the bulk content updates would probably be best left in the form we currently get them.
I certainly respect your opinion, but let me give you a valid example and see what you have to say about it.

We all know that true widescreen support is something the community has been asking for. Dt has already released a video and told us that widescreen support will be included in 4.12.

For the sake of this example, let's say this feature was 'completed' 3 months ago. Now, let's also say that 4.12 won't be released until 3 months from today. That means a really cool new feature that so many people would love to see is just sitting around for 6 months instead of possibly being released via an Auto Updater.

I am just giving this scenario as an example...I don't want to sound like a spoiled child who wants everything 'yesterday'. We all appreciate Team Daidalos and we would never think of pressuring them to release any content before they were totally comfortable doing so.

However, new technology is always a part of the computer scene and an Auto Update program is at least something to consider. So far, it seems to be working quite well for the HSFX community.

Tuco22, I am simply responding to your post, and using the scenario from above, are you saying that you would prefer to wait the extra 6 months for something like widescreen support when it could possibly be released 6 months earlier as an auto update?

Aviar
__________________
Intel i7-4790 4-Core @3.60GHz
Asus Z97-C Motherboard
16GB DDR-3 1600 SDRAM @800 MHz
NVIDIA GTX 760 - 2GB
Creative SB ZX SBX
Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
27" AOC LED - 2752
Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
CH FighterStick-Pro Throttle-Pro Pedals
Logitech G13 Gameboard
GoFlight GF-T8 Module
WIN 8.1
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-22-2012, 05:28 AM
Tuco22's Avatar
Tuco22 Tuco22 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 32
Default

Perhaps i wasnt clear in what i said. Widescreen support certainly isnt a small fix but id clump that in with things id like to see an auto updater used for. What i meant were things like new aircraft, maps, etc (you know the content part of the update) in the format we have now.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-22-2012, 06:05 AM
JtD JtD is offline
Il-2 enthusiast & Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 903
Default

It's a good idea but I don't think it is technically as easy as it is for HSFX.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-22-2012, 07:23 AM
EJGr.Ost_Caspar EJGr.Ost_Caspar is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 939
Default

Not being in such stuff... was it possible to have more than one server to load from? As you know, we mainly rely on mirrors.
__________________

----------------------------------------------
For bugreports, help and support contact:
daidalos.team@googlemail.com

For modelers - The IL-2 standard modeling specifications:
IL-Modeling Bible
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-22-2012, 12:29 PM
fly_zo's Avatar
fly_zo fly_zo is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Posts: 234
Default

swell, another app which would cause more confusion and possible screwed game installations ( faulty download ; broken files which cannot be checked after update ...etc.)

please stick with classic patch style or give us option to choose .

regards
Z
Attached Images
File Type: jpg HSFX-update error.jpg (103.4 KB, 34 views)
__________________


Born to fly...forced to work!!!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-28-2012, 06:16 AM
wheelsup_cavu's Avatar
wheelsup_cavu wheelsup_cavu is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverside County, California
Posts: 309
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fly_zo View Post
swell, another app which would cause more confusion and possible screwed game installations ( faulty download ; broken files which cannot be checked after update ...etc.)

please stick with classic patch style or give us option to choose .

regards
Z
I agree with fly-zo on this one. I am not at all interested in an auto updater but if one comes about I want the option to chose not to use it and still be able to get the updated content by other means.


Wheels
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-22-2012, 12:39 PM
TheGrunch's Avatar
TheGrunch TheGrunch is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 843
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar View Post
Not being in such stuff... was it possible to have more than one server to load from? As you know, we mainly rely on mirrors.
Hi Caspar,
Depending upon the program used as the basis for the updater (rsync is one of the best bandwidth-wise as it only transfers changed files), nearly any number of mirrors could be provided. Using rsync or similar is usually as simple as distributing the sync software and including a short batch file, e.g.

Code:
@echo off
if not exist il2fb.exe goto :noexeerror
echo Sync IL-2 1946 with mirror:
echo 1 - http://www.jgzbv.de/downloads/IL2-46/
echo 2 - http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/IL2-46/
set /p mirror= Please enter mirror number: 
goto %mirror%
:1
echo cwrsync -avz http://www.jgzbv.de/downloads/IL2-46/ ./
goto :eof
:2
echo cwrsync -avz http://atomicgamer.com/files/IL2-46/ ./ 
goto :eof
:noexeerror
echo Please run from the main IL-2 1946 directory!
Try it out, just create a file with the above content, name it whatever.bat and run it from the command prompt in a directory that also contains a file called il2fb.exe. It won't do anything because the actual file operations are just printed in this example but it proves the concept. If there is no il2fb.exe it prints an error and exits. There are various ways to make this more sophisticated including providing the mirrorlist as a separate file that can also be updated.

However, if the mods have a more sophisticated updater built around this concept already that could possibly update itself and its own mirror list etc., I don't see why it wouldn't be easier to just use that providing the authors are happy for you to do so.

Last edited by TheGrunch; 10-22-2012 at 01:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-23-2012, 12:19 PM
T}{OR's Avatar
T}{OR T}{OR is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Posts: 833
Default

ED has gone the same way with the latest v1.2.1 of the DCS World.

+1
__________________

LEVEL BOMBING MANUAL v2.0 | Dedicated Bomber Squadron
'MUSTANG' - compilation of online air victories
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-23-2012, 04:28 PM
TheGrunch's Avatar
TheGrunch TheGrunch is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 843
Default

Here's an example cobbled together which uses a mirrorlist.txt file:

Code:
@echo off
set index=1

if not exist il2fb.exe goto :noexeerror

echo Sync IL-2 1946 with mirror:

setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
for /f "tokens=*" %%f in (mirrorlist.txt) do (
set url!index!=%%f
echo !index! - %%f
set /a index=!index!+1
)

setlocal disabledelayedexpansion

set /p selection= Please enter mirror number: 
set url%selection% >nul 2<&1

if errorlevel 1 (
	echo Invalid number selected!
	pause
	goto :eof
)

call :resolve %%url%selection%%%

echo Selected mirror: %mirror%
echo Replace this command with sync command for %mirror%

pause

goto :eof

:resolve
set mirror=%1
goto :eof

:noexeerror
echo Please run from the main IL-2 1946 directory!
pause
mirrorlist.txt is simply any text file with a single URL to each line. The bold line should be replaced with a reference to the sync software. There are several pieces of software which will do this kind of task easily from a command line in Windows, but Duplicati seems the most complete.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-23-2012, 06:28 PM
theOden theOden is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 221
Thumbs up

I like the idea.
:thumbsup:
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.