4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by FC99

NG stuff is untouchable, BOB content is negotiable but like everything else it all comes down to personal interest when it comes to adding new things to the game.

So disappointing that we cant use any NG stuff

[Nil]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

So disappointing that we cant use any NG stuff

Indeed, but there is still the Douglas TBD Devastator : This is a Douglas torpedo plane, not a NG.

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by Nil

Indeed, but there is still the Douglas TBD Devastator : This is a Douglas torpedo plane, not a NG.

That's true, But I would of like to have seen a beautiful TBF cockpit from TD.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

That's true, But I would of like to have seen a beautiful TBF cockpit from TD.

True but sadly off the table... another Navy strike plane we could have would be the SB2C Helldiver. That would be very interesting to have as a flyable. Depending on the model it had a full range of bomb carrying capabilities (stored in the internal bomb bay), HVAR rockets on the wings, and twin 20mm Hispano cannons. One of the few US aircraft to mount such weapons.

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by IceFire

True but sadly off the table... another Navy strike plane we could have would be the SB2C Helldiver. That would be very interesting to have as a flyable. Depending on the model it had a full range of bomb carrying capabilities (stored in the internal bomb bay), HVAR rockets on the wings, and twin 20mm Hispano cannons. One of the few US aircraft to mount such weapons.

Built by Curtis wasn't it?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

Built by Curtis wasn't it?

Correct. So it should be open.

[Fighterace]

So depressing that NG stuff is off limits. What about the P-82 Twin mustang? It was made by NAA.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

So depressing that NG stuff is off limits. What about the P-82 Twin mustang? It was made by NAA.

Not sure... NAA was sold to Rockwell and from there to Boeing.

P-82 isn't really a WWII aircraft. I'd rather see a focus on types that fought over later models (as interesting as the Twin Mustang is). As far as Mustang models go... the initial RAF Mustang Mark I, the P-51A, and the A-36 Apache are all interesting types that'd be interesting to see. Not sure if NAA aircraft are off limits or no.

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Not sure... NAA was sold to Rockwell and from there to Boeing.

P-82 isn't really a WWII aircraft. I'd rather see a focus on types that fought over later models (as interesting as the Twin Mustang is). As far as Mustang models go... the initial RAF Mustang Mark I, the P-51A, and the A-36 Apache are all interesting types that'd be interesting to see. Not sure if NAA aircraft are off limits or no.

What about planes from Consolidated ie: Privateer and Coronado?

A P-51K would be nice and include some improvements to the current P-51s in the game.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by csThor

Yes, that means anything BoB-related (including a Channel Map, Spit I, Bf 109 E-1, E-3 etc) is out.

I'd wondered about the exact restrictions on BoB content, since it appears that TD will be releasing a Wellington. I guess the Wellington variant will be a version produced after 1940.

As a quibble, I can see the Spit I being off limits, since it's THE iconic Battle of Britain plane, but it's a bit strange that the early E variants of Bf-109 aren't available, since they were used all through the Blitzkrieg, not just during the BoB. You've got most of the Bf-109E1 or E3's foes - PZL.7, Fokker D.XXI, MS.406, Hawker Hurricane Mk I and Hawk 75 - but not the early "Emils" themselves. It pretty much cripples any early war expansion of IL2.

Originally Posted by csThor

Not at all, since 1C and Ubisoft have accepted NG's claim by signing an agreement. That agreement still stands and includes anything that was built by companies now or previously owned by Grumman.

That's what I figured. N-G seems to have had Satan himself as their contact attorney. So, there's no possibility of dealing with Huntington Ingalls, even if you wanted to.