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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-13-2012, 02:22 AM
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yeah for me oil leaks were always visible as well
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:27 AM
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now please focuse on the visibility of contacts...i just flew on atag, and at least on my rig, spits are now even harder to spot, as the range in which they disappear seems to got bigger.
i was really astounded when all of a sudden a spit appeared right in front of me, maybe a hundred meters above me, and at approxiamte 300meters distance...two seconds later, a second spit appeared just as fast as the first one directly in my gunsight...for me, thats the bug with the highest priority in the moment....


besides that annoying bug, it was still great fun, one sortie 4kills, but now definitely a challenge again....
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:20 AM
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Sorry, for me is this patch a big step backwards!!!
FM from the 109 is a disaster imo! The trim sucks completly!
The Spit is now the Überplane again! It climbs almost that good as the BF, turns better and dives faster or even with the 109! Almost no chance to escape in a fight!
Don't talk bad about this great new patch. Go and learn how to fly the airplane.Thx to luthier and team for this awesome work.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:48 AM
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Default Mini Bug - hit sounds.

No bug thread yet so I will post this here for now.

You can hear the hits you make on the other aircraft inside your own cockpit. Quite loud and it enables you to know if you are hitting your target when pulling a lot of lead and the other aircraft is below your nose.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:22 AM
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No bug thread yet so I will post this here for now.

You can hear the hits you make on the other aircraft inside your own cockpit. Quite loud and it enables you to know if you are hitting your target when pulling a lot of lead and the other aircraft is below your nose.
Its not a bug, you were target fixated and ignoring the guy behind you.

Sorry, I'm sure its a valid bug.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:33 AM
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Its not a bug, you were target fixated and ignoring the guy behind you.

Sorry, I'm sure its a valid bug.

Ahhh, gotta open the cockpit again to enable the sound radar.


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Old 10-13-2012, 03:44 AM
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Sorry, for me is this patch a big step backwards!!!
FM from the 109 is a disaster imo! The trim sucks completly!
The Spit is now the Überplane again! It climbs almost that good as the BF, turns better and dives faster or even with the 109! Almost no chance to escape in a fight!
the only thing you could really complain about is if the INITIAL dive from the 109 doesnt give it an advantage in disengaging (because in a sudden dive maneuver there should only be an initial advantage of the 109 fuel injection over the British carburetor lag caused by fuel starvation), all the rest is entirely normal.

welcome to the start of kanal krankheit

ps: hint: if you want to have a climb advantage over the british fighters you actually need to slingshot pas them, not try and magically outclimb them from an even start
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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Sorry, for me is this patch a big step backwards!!!
FM from the 109 is a disaster imo! The trim sucks completly!
The Spit is now the Überplane again! It climbs almost that good as the BF, turns better and dives faster or even with the 109! Almost no chance to escape in a fight!
Cool down the are fix first the british planes FM and in final patch the 109er will have all advances back then.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:03 PM
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It's nice to see the game getting up in shape. I have just flew a bit and I was very impressed. It ran very smooth even on my rather mid-range system, much like the old Il-2 did. Overall I see it much of an improvement.

However it's disappointing to see that the 109E speeds at low alttiudes is still not corrected. They seem to make about 460 km/h at 1.35ata (no WEP max. power), instead of 500 km/h at SL which was their specification in 1939/1940 with the current engine mounted.

Naturally we understand that the FM team was overloaded with fixing some rather serious bugs in RAF fighter FMs, but it would be equally nice to see that at least the same attention is spent on this issue as well and finally our 109E's (E-1, E-3, E-4) would all meet their historical specs, since after all numerous new FMs were added, we have now about 12 different types of RAF fighters modelled in various conditions and boost, but the 3 German single seater variant's problems with their low altitude speed has been neglegected since the release.

Below I attach the original type specification sheet for Bf 109E from 1939*, which gives the official speed specification for the type, which all planes had to conform within +/- 5% tolerance before acceptance by the Luftwaffe.

This, along with the other documents clearly show the top speed was 500 km/h at 1.35ata (1045 horsepower). From this it's easy to calculate that the plane should reach about 515 km/h at low levels with the 1-min boost (1.45ata, 1175 HP).

I also attach two flight trials, one German E-1 by Messerschmitt and one French one made on a captured E-3 which confirm these figures. Note the French one's boost fell off with altitude for some unknown error in the engine, but conforms well with German trials otherwise at low levels (the French aircraft had a lower powered engine using only 1.3ata). There's also a Swiss trial of an export 109E-3a which appears to have been made using the high altitude blower speed only. An overlay is provided below.




Full description of these documents can be found at my site and my previous postings:

http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...chreibung.html
http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...w_109V15a.html
http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...formanceT.html


* BAUBESCHREIBUNG für das FLUGZEUGMUSTER MESSERSCHMITT ME 109 mit DAIMLER-BENZ-MOTOR DB 601
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Il-2Bugtracker: Bug #415: Spitfire Mk I, Ia, and Mk II: Stability and Control http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/415

Kurfürst - Your resource site on Bf 109 performance! http://kurfurst.org

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Old 10-13-2012, 02:09 PM
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Cool down the are fix first the british planes FM and in final patch the 109er will have all advances back then.
as it was in WWII..
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