enforced cockpit puts at huge disadvantage those who lack trackir

[Ze-Jamz]

Bug*er me that was a waste of a click on my mobile whilst on my break..however Bliss's first reply was indeed hilarious...

[raaaid]

i meant 22 hours a week, 4 hours a day plus 2 hours the saturdays

i dont need more money since ill probabaly try free track

edit:

i fly one hand on joystick and the other in the mouse, i have two buttoms for throtle, full throtle, zero throtle, i need no more

i think this game should posibly be used without a head tracker

as the mouse is in shift+f1 to look behind a bar you just have to pan slightly which is great

i see a great future for this game with its potential

[Stublerone]

The viewing routines have to be reworked, as already stated in bugtracker and many people there gave thiese tickets on ru bugtracker and on english bugtracker a vote.

The whole situation with shift+f1 (fasten seatbelt toggle) is okay for revisight and non revi sight, but the limitation in viewing angles makes the game totally incompetitive, especially for fighter pilots. You have enough to do with motor management and prop pitch, etc. We simply need a easier routine, e.g. the old il2 1946 viewing.

Flying with mouse is even worse, because u need a third device, if such thing isn't implemeted on your hotas.

Many friends are not willing to fly against other fighter pilots, because they are not satisfied with it and they generally fly a lot worse, than before. Losing target because of a nonsense feature is a dead criteria, even for me. I will not fly clanmatches until they changed that. Especially for a 109 pilot with revi slightly out of middle, this is a non flyable fighter, if it comes to good dogfighting. And I am personally 3 or 4 times in dogfighting just with that weird viewing routine and its bugs.

No dogfight possible, because u lose sight in several situations, because you forgot to switch back with shift+f1. That is my opinion see bugtracker.

[macro]

Trackir rocks.

You lose out if you dont want to spend the money. Simple as

[28_Condor]

I never used TrakcIR and probably never get used (I tried facetrack and dislike it)

I use NewView (you control freely your views with hat), for me a better solution that not hurt my neck

Is also possible configure 6DOF positions...

Try using it! You can download from our forum (in Portuguese - google is your firend):

http://www.gavca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21760

Here de developers forum:

http://translate.google.com.br/trans...baf068&act=url

But some links are broken..

Cheers!

[Stublerone]

+1 on new view or other tool.for joystick free view. Please never use mouse while flying. I mean, I would get even more sick and die of epileptical shock, when I should move joystick with my good hand and additionally do motor management, prop pitch, mixtures, firing mg's, throw bombs and additionally do something different and unnatural with my bad hand, like looking around.

I would get pissed after 1 minute and quit playing games in general. I would never kill anybody in a hundred years. And viewing behind with leaning to the side? How do you do that? Flying scissors, jojos and barrel rolls in dogfights and keep the enemy in sight would be unlearnable for my brain. I mean: Even if I coordinate that, I wouldn't be able to change prop pitch, mixture, flaps, throttle. Where are all those buttons? On the stick? I would not hit any target while pushing buttons on my stick every 2 seconds

Honestly, that wouldn't be fun for me and I would quit playing. A Freetrack is for fun and also cost some more bucks, if you do it right. The cam with good fov and a lot of fps, the ir-led's, ballasts and other electrical parts like mini usb port for charging batteries (if you want it wireless) .

I personally switched to trackir, because of the cam ( some years ago, you rarely find 60fps cams or more ). I use active light tracking. Sun can burn directly into the cam without interference. I use my old track clip from freetrack times with ir-led having a wider degree of emitting and it is slightly bigger, which exceeds the limits, too. It is driven by usb power connection. By far better than the track clip pro!

[furbs]

Originally Posted by 28_Condor

I use NewView (you control freely your views with hat), for me a better solution that not hurt my neck

I used TrackIR for years and never ever had a bad neck and never heard of anyone else getting one using it.

With my setup i dont turn my head more than 30 degrees from front.

[Codex]

If anyone gets a sore neck from using TrackIR then I suspect there is an underlying issue at hand ...

a) Your wearing something on your head that is heavy i.e. headphones

b) You need new pillows

c) You need physiotherapy

d) You need to stop staring at girl's arses when they walk past, walk backwards instead