MP vulching scumbags..

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

That is so much bollocks, it doesn't even warrant the dignity of a response. Pillock.

Just like saying "Vulching is realistic and part of BOB" You guys are kidding yourself. Show me some stats that show planes had to take off inland because there were enemy planes circling the coastal airfields for 80% of the war. Whatever....if thats what you guys like...it's your server. For those pilots that want a little more realism and think dogfights should take place with planes in the air...look for a server elsewhere.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Force10

Just like saying "Vulching is realistic and part of BOB" You guys are kidding yourself. Show me some stats that show planes had to take off inland because there were enemy planes circling the coastal airfields for 80% of the war. Whatever....if thats what you guys like...it's your server. For those pilots that want a little more realism and think dogfights should take place with planes in the air...look for a server elsewhere.

Its really a solution rather than a cure. Front line airbases are dangerous places. Also not all combat flights resulted in action... - So thats not correct in multplayer either.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sa=X...w=1760&bih=790

[Manston]. Its strategic location also meant that it was inevitably to play a major part in the Battle of Britain in 1940. However, its vulnerability on the sea coast of Kent led it to become a target of convenience for the Luftwaffe which bombed and strafed it mercilessly. Many of the raids which it suffered in August and September were carried out not only by Luftwaffe twin-engined bombers, but often involved Me109s making surprise attacks. The defenders often had no warning of enemy aircraft which were able to come in across the sea and then strafed Manston.

Manston was to see some of the most intense fighting of the Battle. Attacks on it did much damage. A particularly serious attacked occurred on 24th August when seven RAF personnel were killed. It was the scene of some remarkable episodes particularly when enemy ground level attacks occurred when flights of Spitfires were actually taking off. Manston’s importance was recognised when the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, paid it a personal visit on 28th August 1940. He saw such a scene of destruction that he called for the Air Ministry to pay more attention to the urgent need for an organised system to be set up to handle the repairs required both here at Manston and elsewhere in Fighter Command.

From here:
http://www.field-recording.org.uk/ba...raf-manston-2/

Although I get your point. Seems players do bee line to them. You can lead the community to a briefing but you cant make them follow it! So naturally where are enemy fighters going to be? - at airfields...

Just from my own opinion: I think allot of it stems from the poor red FM's were allot of red pilots have decided hugging their AA is a great idea, therefore bringing the fight closer to home and lower but you can't blame them. The blue pilots main ride is the 109 which we all know favours the boom and zoom tactics which favours flying at altitude... Its just cause and effect and it all starts with the mission making and then the players which work out the stratergies..

People seem to seek instant action over Hawkinge, Lympne and Manston but the best fights Ive ever had have been over Deal.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Its really a solution rather than a cure. Front line airbases are dangerous places. Also not all combat flights resulted in action... - So thats not correct in multplayer either.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sa=X...w=1760&bih=790



From here:
http://www.field-recording.org.uk/ba...raf-manston-2/

Although I get your point. Seems players do bee line to them. You can lead the community to a briefing but you cant make them follow it! So naturally where are enemy fighters going to be? - at airfields...

Just from my own opinion: I think allot of it stems from the poor red FM's were allot of red pilots have decided hugging their AA is a great idea, therefore bringing the fight closer to home and lower but you can't blame them. The blue pilots main ride is the 109 which we all know favours the boom and zoom tactics which favours flying at altitude... Its just cause and effect and it all starts with the mission making and then the players which work out the stratergies..

People seem to speek instant action over Hawkinge, Lympne and Manston but the best fights Ive ever had have been over Deal.

+1

TBH I never used the flak at my coastal airfields only because I had thought it too ineffective to save my goose from a pursuing 109! LOL. It was a post you made awhile back commenting on defensive flak around RAF airfields that had me look a little closer at the server messages on a Custom Window ingame. For almost every kill (bombers at high alt, LW fighters at low alt) -- I was ALWAYS sharing it with "Bofors, bofors, bofors" and getting credit for part of a kill. It was an "aha!" moment!

re Red FM's: much improved for 100 octane Spits in this beta 1.09. Much less prone to overheat if careful (but still very possible!), I believe that at low-to-mid altitudes they are a fair match for the 109's in terms of performance. Sea level speeds seem very close. I'm finding co-energy 109's still have a climb advantage, but Spits are no longer floundering around below. I still think 109's have too vicious an accelerated stall and spin at high speed, but I believe I'm alone in thinking that. Just as well....it's saved my bacon a few times over the weekend!

All to say, I believe with this latest RC 1.09 patch that encounters between opposing Spits and 109's have become much more interesting for both parties. Airfield suppression tactics (vulching) especially will be wild -- aggressive Jabo raids will be increasingly met with fierce interceptions. Fun times for all!

[ATAG_Dutch]

And Maidstone may be bumpy, but it's ever such a peaceful and quiet airfield...

By the time you get over Manston/Hawkinge, you're at >15,000ft. Then you get the call.....'Low flak over Manston' (of course they should say 'ack-ack', I mean we're not Germans after all, but 'flak' seems to be 'de riguer' in these latter days), or 'Vulcher (vulture?) over Littlestone!'....But you've by now got so much height, you can scream down on them like a screaming diving thing, with a pot of kinetic and potential energy so huge you'd think your name was the name of a big bloke.

Unfortunately, you may be going so fast, you collide with your adversary, or conversely shoot down a Blenheim coz it looks so much like an '88.

But I bet both those things happened in real life too.

[ATAG_Snapper]

ATAG_Dutch wrote:

".......or conversely shoot down a Blenheim coz it looks so much like an '88."

Hey, it looked like it was making a low level run against our ships!!! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! (Apologies once again to Epoch. Who would think I would actually HIT something on my first pass for once???? )

[salmo]

I'm rewriting my parachute & cable airfield defence script as we speak

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Hey, it looked like it was making a low level run against our ships!!! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! (Apologies once again to Epoch. Who would think I would actually HIT something on my first pass for once???? )

Now there you go you see? Ego. It never in my wildest dreams entered my head that you actually did this the other night mate.

Evidently the event has left some form of permanent psychological scar. I apologise for having mentioned it. It is obviously a painful memory. I seriously was not referring to your totally abhorrant behaviour at all. Much.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

.....'Low flak over Manston' (of course they should say 'ack-ack', I mean we're not Germans after all, but 'flak' seems to be 'de riguer' in these latter days), or 'Vulcher (vulture?) over Littlestone!'....

Or even worse call Dungeness "English point" and Cap Gris Nez "French point" wtf?

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Or even worse call Dungeness "English point" and Cap Gris Nez "French point" wtf?

I know mate, I know. Drives me potty too.

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Or even worse call Dungeness "English point" and Cap Gris Nez "French point" wtf?

I would like to say i think us americans bring a certain ( need to go look up a word spelling) back, ambiance yeah thats the word , look what else we gave you RAMSGATE -MANSTON New name MANSGATE much more manly ! the nob ! We just giggle when we say it (sorry) an english point i mean cmon it a point that sticks out there . So english point ! Same goes for French point , it's pointy So french point I know its your country but we are americans , what ya want lol LOVE IT when you guys are on comms calling out all those places , thinking where the hell are they talking about , is that even on the map? and i still dont know where beechy head is ? but it sounds dirty ! dont take to serious love ya all i'm renaming your country 1 town at a time !