Are DONATIONS possible?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

+1
Apart from the fact I really just have no interest in WWI, what you described is exactly what I thought would happen in RoF, if thats true or not I dont know.

It's not. The RoF free aircraft are competitive. In fact, the Spad 13 is one of the best aircraft in the game.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It's not. The RoF free aircraft are competitive. In fact, the Spad 13 is one of the best aircraft in the game.

So the DLC aircraft, sorry - cockpits, are not so?

EDIT, I just went on the RoF forum and I am confused. Seems its not so free to play as you have to upgrade your demo? Can someone confirm this?

Also the add ons are mostly rediculous. Pistols, scarves and junk. Imagine if I paid 8USD and put an extra cannon on my 109E4? - Adolf Golland style? Something super rare just being included for profit. Nah its just all wrong.

On the instruments?! How can it be WWI if you kit your aircraft out with WWII instuments? Its such a turn off, I know I could just not buy them but knowing I was being out flown because someone had them would make me mad. - then I'd have to buy them....... Never gonna happen.

Nice selection of aircraft, With the sequal maybe IL2 will have the same amount in allot less time too... I just counted: 32 in RoF? 24 in Clod if you count the Heart Breaker... Thats not bad since RoF was out two years before Clod... So if we get only another 9 or more in the sequal flyable then then Clod will have more aircraft.



I just had an idea though if clod does go down the DLC route, just make us that dont like the model buy a bundle pack from the off. Twice ( or more?) the price for everything in that expansion, like "Ost Front", "Mediterranean and North Africa", "Pacific", etc, when it is released as downloadable content we get it automatically without charge. Then those who like to buy DLC can buy it a piece at a time and everyone who doesnt like that can just buy a bundle... That might make everyone happy.

• Those that want to try the sim could do so without a massive price tag or feeling suckered into buying DLC, attracting more customers with a demo version.
• Those who can afford a big pay out per sequal are not put off by the pay for DLC business model. The devs would get a cash injection before they had done the work.
• Those who like the DLC model or could not afford the whole thing in one go could buy piece by piece. Fueling money into the sim long term.

Win for all!

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

So the DLC aircraft, sorry - cockpits, are not so?

EDIT, I just went on the RoF forum and I am confused. Seems its not so free to play as you have to upgrade your demo? Can someone confirm this?

Not so what?

The game is free. That includes 2 free aircraft: Albatros DVa and Spad 13. You can also fly as a gunner online even if you don't own the aircraft that you are flying in. It's called a demo, but it's a demo that never expires. F R E E.

Additional aircraft are currently at 50% discount.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Not so what?

The game is free. That includes 2 free aircraft: Albatros DVa and Spad 13. You can also fly as a gunner online even if you don't own the aircraft that you are flying in. It's called a demo, but it's a demo that never expires. F R E E.

Additional aircraft are currently at 50% discount.

How come I paid £30.00 for it on release then?!

Wait whats this got to do with donations for clod? - Can a business accept donations? What about consumer rights and legalities?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

How come I paid £30.00 for it on release then?!

Because you bought one of the retail versions rather than downloading the free demo.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Because you bought one of the retail versions rather than downloading the free demo.

No I didn't because to have the full game on release you had to pay for it with MONIES! It had two free aircarft, (sorry cockpits! - there is a difference aparently!) and four others you could BUY! It was not a free game until one year later and as a die hard rise of flight fan I expect you would know this! The "free" demo with SP stuff came about a year after! Although it did have a servely limited DEMO.

Essentially my paid for game was reduced to the demo pile with no reward, nor compensation! - essentially I paid for the development of those aircraft you love! For nothing!

I also hear from a reliable source that the main stay of the German side is 30mph too slow (Albatross) making the game unrealistic and once an aircraft is released the FM/DM is NEVER modified!

Little documentation exist to disprove or prove any FM/DM except pilot reports and multiplayer numbers in RoF have fallen! - Because the whole thing is monies orientated!

Once agin IL2 promises the future... - Let us not forget RoF was out 2 YEARS before Clod! - and we all know what rhymes with flight?! (its an English word which come from the German word!)

Anyway this would please most in IL2 (the realistic WWII combat flight sim!) I think:

I just had an idea though if clod does go down the DLC route, just make us that dont like the model buy a bundle pack from the off. Twice ( or more?) the price for everything in that expansion, like "Ost Front", "Mediterranean and North Africa", "Pacific", etc, when it is released as downloadable content we get it automatically without charge. Then those who like to buy DLC can buy it a piece at a time and everyone who doesnt like that can just buy a bundle... That might make everyone happy.

• Those that want to try the sim could do so without a massive price tag or feeling suckered into buying DLC, attracting more customers with a demo version.
• Those who can afford a big pay out per sequal are not put off by the pay for DLC business model. The devs would get a cash injection before they had done the work.
• Those who like the DLC model or could not afford the whole thing in one go could buy piece by piece. Fueling money into the sim long term.

Win for all! - LETS GET BACK ON TRACK THIS IS THE IL2 FORUM AFTER ALL!

[bzc3lk]

I have seen some diatribe on the net in my time stretching the truth to suite their agenda, but this has to be one of the best, so lets clarify some dubious points.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I also hear from a reliable source that the main stay of the German side is 30mph too slow (Albatross) making the game unrealistic [/B]

First lesson in life, check your source! It aint all that reliable Eleven miles per hour is more the truth, than the "lets pull a figure out of my hat" 30 mph quoted.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

and once an aircraft is released the FM/DM is NEVER modified![/B]

More Diatribe me thinks! Refer link below.

http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewto...p?f=45&t=25227

Especially the second line "2. Nieuport 17.C1 now have revized FM (stability, agility, maneuverability, speed, climb, construction strenght, anything...)"

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

multiplayer numbers in RoF have fallen! -[/B]

Hope you havn't based this statement from that "reliable source " again.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Once agin IL2 promises the future... - -[/B]

"Promises the future" Pfft. If this link below was anything to go by, their promises and the game we were finally presented with does not hold much "promise" for the future.

http://www.cleared-to-engage.com/201...diary-part-01/