Thoughts about Friday's update

[Rattlehead]

...Really just seems more and more to me that we're being strung along until the bubble pops altogether.

Like many, I pre-ordered Clod to show support for the series, and 18 months later, after so much drama in the interim, this title is still half broken.

I can appreciate that the development team has been put in a difficult position and has probably been between a rock (IC Company) and a hard place (we the consumers) since the start, but at the end of the day, we have not got the product we paid for, end of story.

The tentative promise of further patches, provided we buy the next game, does not sit at all well with me. Isn't this promise of 'better' and 'fixes' been something we have put up with for 18 months already? And to be honest, what do we really have to show for it?

So forgive me please if I don't buy into further promises of patches and fixes hook, line and sinker. Those days are over, sorry to say, as are the days of me buying a product with 'IL-2' adorning the cover and expecting a classy, quality game. Those days are also over.

Now, everything that's said and promised is going to be met with a healthy dose of skepticism, and I certainly will not be buying anything this team puts out until I know for a fact that it's 100%.

Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Now, everything that's said and promised is going to be met with a healthy dose of skepticism, and I certainly will not be buying anything this team puts out until I know for a fact that it's 100%.

Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

+1

Hope that Luthier will read your posting and the all thread.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

+1

I also agree with Rattlehead on this I will never again buy anything this crowd,releases either.

Regarding Luthiers message.......well,too little,too late,what a joke,the pr on this sim has been nothing but scant at best and again all these months later it would appear the only way they got this thing to stop the CTD's was too dumb everything down.

I think for me,the worst of it all,are the shite FM's,they are really crap,laughable.After all the work the members of this community put in,in handing 1C on a platter superb FM data,really precise,collated work,and you think too yourself......hang on,they have'nt even had the courtesy to even look at the damn stuff.

This was so evident in from the poor patches we received whenever they felt the urge to give us something in the way of a fix.

The writing was on the wall,there was enough guys on here sending in crash logs,faults and other problems with the thing,I'm sure we won't be the only ones who lost faith in this lot over the months since it's release.Good luck 1C.

Well I still think they could turn it around, If i thought for a minute my job was on the line I would be coming in at the weekends and offering my services for free to fix it, I'm sure the many multi skilled modders on here would lend a hand if only the Dev's could humble themselves enough to ask for help.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well I still think they could turn it around, If i thought for a minute my job was on the line I would be coming in at the weekends and offering my services for free to fix it, I'm sure the many multi skilled modders on here would lend a hand if only the Dev's could humble themselves enough to ask for help.

How do you know thats not happening?

I am positive about today, I think there will be some news.

[salmo]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

...Really just seems more and more to me that we're being strung along until the bubble pops altogether.

Like many, I pre-ordered Clod to show support for the series, and 18 months later, after so much drama in the interim, this title is still half broken.

I can appreciate that the development team has been put in a difficult position and has probably been between a rock (IC Company) and a hard place (we the consumers) since the start, but at the end of the day, we have not got the product we paid for, end of story.

The tentative promise of further patches, provided we buy the next game, does not sit at all well with me. Isn't this promise of 'better' and 'fixes' been something we have put up with for 18 months already? And to be honest, what do we really have to show for it?

So forgive me please if I don't buy into further promises of patches and fixes hook, line and sinker. Those days are over, sorry to say, as are the days of me buying a product with 'IL-2' adorning the cover and expecting a classy, quality game. Those days are also over.

Now, everything that's said and promised is going to be met with a healthy dose of skepticism, and I certainly will not be buying anything this team puts out until I know for a fact that it's 100%.

Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

Well said. And to highlight the disregard the publishers (Ubisoft) have for their customers, the official game website ( http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o...ome/index.aspx ) STILL (after 18 months) contains false & misleading claims about the game. eg. "Join a 128-player jump-in/jump-out multiplayer mode where battles can last hours, days or even weeks." => not possible with the porked net code. Advanced physics – wind, lift, turbulences, rain, fog… => No working weather, no fog (never has been) & no rain (never has been). Hell, even B6 said that the weather was "not a supported feature" in the game. In most countries it's illegal to advertise product features that you know are not true.

[adonys]

so? sue them, and force them to make the code GPL to settle the class suit process.

then we can do it by ourselves

[Friendly_flyer]

I believe Luthier have no choice other than to follow the plan he has laid out. He does after all not pay his own wages. Whether this will be the right plan remains to be seen. I'm reserving any judgement until after the patch.

[furbs]

A lot rides on this final patch for COD, if it doesn't deliver were in for a long wait with half a game.
The problem is i dont think some of the more important fixes are even on the devs radar.

[SlipBall]

I hope net code is numeral uno