The new Oleg Maddoxs

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Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

yes but you need to look at the releases from IL2 Sturmovik back in 2001 and how long that took to get better.

I think it took 6 years to get at the level of what it is today.

But with all due respect the demo version was light years ahead of any of the other flight combat sims out there at the time so there was a huge noticeable difference.
Clod doesn't seem to have quite that gap above the others now and it's still not working enough.