Ati 4850

[BAXTER STOCKMAN]

How can this happen ??? The nvdia 7900 cards are faster than Radeon 9800 pro so how can the weaker 9800 pro have better graphics than the more powerful 7950gt?? Anyway i am pretty sure that my 8800gt has better image quality than a 9800 pro!! Can you post some screenhots of games running with a ati card and some others screenhots of games running with nvdia card so we can make a comparission??

[Feuerfalke]

Frames Per Second does not equal image quality, Baxter.

Of course new cards can usually show more effects, as they are more powerful. For IL2 those cards are overkill, though. Remember, this game is 9 years old and even with the upgraded graphics, it touches the limits of your CPU much faster than those of your GPU.

The image quality shows in different aspects, though. For example: With the 8800 I have flickering textures in IL2, flickering smoke, with perfect mode and effects=2 the flak-clouds turn pink and the groundtexture moves around slightly, even when standing still on some map and mission combinations.

For LockOn, you see shimering beaches, even through the fog and the self-shadowing is crippled.


These things have nothing to do with visual effects of the game, that older graphics cards cannot show. It has rather something to do with image-quality-factors, that were accepted to push up the overall performance and frames per second.
From the marketing point of view, the masses of top-notch-brand-new-graphics-card-uses are not the few people who play IL2 or LockOn. Not even BF2 any longer, so there is no need for nVidia to fix these issues either.

[BAXTER STOCKMAN]

Yes there are a lot more important games than L2 For example i realy need a card like this to run Crysis ith max settings. And Crysis realy needs a card like 9800gx2 to run at max settings, dosent it? With my 8800gt i dont get more than 35 fps maximum in 1280x1024 very high settings. I never played IL2 and i dont know if i will because fps and action games in general are my main interest.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN

Yes there are a lot more important games than L2 For example i realy need a card like this to run Crysis ith max settings. And Crysis realy needs a card like 9800gx2 to run at max settings, dosent it? With my 8800gt i dont get more than 35 fps maximum in 1280x1024 very high settings. I never played IL2 and i dont know if i will because fps and action games in general are my main interest.

A 9800GX2 would help you less than you hope, I guess. Your CPU is not the fastest and I guess your memory isn't either. Both are very much used in Crysis. With 4Gig of RAM on a 64bit system, Crysis really starts to shine, especially the multiplayer-part.

A better gfx-card can give you higher maximum frames per second, but you will increase lags, stutters and delays. I play FPS-games a lot, too, and especially in multiplayer-games, a fast PC helps you more than fency graphics.

[BAXTER STOCKMAN]

I know that my cpu is not so fast.. I read in some others forum that people with core duo and 8800gt get more fps in crysis than i get with my Athlon X2. However most games work perfect on my machine so there is no need to upgrade it for now .

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN

I know that my cpu is not so fast.. I read in some others forum that people with core duo and 8800gt get more fps in crysis than i get with my Athlon X2. However most games work perfect on my machine so there is no need to upgrade it for now .

That's correct. Your PC is fine. I just answered to the question if a 9800X2 will help you a lot and if you think about updating your machine with this card, my suggestion was to think about alternatives. That's all

[Tomik]

Does anyone of you have this card in combination with two displays?

My previous card was NVIDIA one (7600GT AGP) and I didn't have any problems running IL-2 on my primary LCD and TS console (and other sw) on the second one.
Now I have the ATI 4850, second LCD set as Extended display and it's working perfectly in 2D. But when I run IL-2, second LCD become black.
Both are DVI connected.

I've found this happens only if IL-2 uses OpenGL provider (Opengl32.dll), when I switch to DX (dx8wrap.dll), everything is OK, except Perfect settings of course
Any idea how to solve this??

Another thing are the new ATI Catalyst drivers 8.7 - I have some purple flickering objects (ships), but previous drivers (the Hotfixed ones) are OK , so I went back to them..

[Zoom2136]

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN

I never played IL2 and i dont know if i will because fps and action games in general are my main interest.

Then why are you posting on this board?