British FM killing the fun of the game for allied pilots.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Aircraft performance can not be accurately compared based on Books and stories. You do not know what were the circumstances, what was the battle scene, what was the status of the planes, who was the experienced pilots, had they damage or injury before, and you don't know many other reason.
If you read memoirs of pilots who survived the war – it's incredible– but all of them survived the war, and all of them will tell you that they plane was better than other. They win the dogfights.

Kozhedub was asked once, what he thinks, what was the best plane of the WW2? He replied: "The La-7. I hope you understand why."

+1 and in addition, we are all "aces"... In RL this was not so, some British pilots in BoB only had 6 or 10 hours flght time...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Top speed at sea level test with and without 'temp effects' enabled. Both runs done in the free flight England quick mission. Spit MkIa 100oct.

With temp effects on I got 270mph with +11 boost, 3000rpm.

With temp effects off I got 290mph with +11 boost, 3000rpm.

No extra effort or duration of flight was necessary, the Spit was just faster with temp effects off.

The first screenshot is temp effects off, the second temp effects on.

CEM was on in both cases.

[Longywales]

I can also confirm that the spitfire is speeding and climbing faster with CEM turned off..in variants IIa and Ia_Oct

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Longywales

I can also confirm that the spitfire is speeding and climbing faster with CEM turned off..in variants IIa and Ia_Oct

Longywales, please could you try it again with just the 'temp effects' turned off? Leave CEM on, turn off temps. That's how I got the result above. Thanks

[Longywales]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Longywales, please could you try it again with just the 'temp effects' turned off? Leave CEM on, turn off temps. That's how I got the result above. Thanks

Yeah, same results with temp off...it must be the temp effects causing the fault then....

Maybe you guys at ATAG could make a server with temp effects off for the time being

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Longywales

Yeah, same results with temp off...it must be the temp effects causing the fault then....

Maybe you guys at ATAG could make a server with temp effects off for the time being

Good thought.

We need to see if other aircraft (notably 109's, 110's) are adversely affected by switching Temp Effects off. I don't have the hours (ie competence) to extract maximum performance from these two aircraft -- hopefully somebody here can and will report back.

So far, this is an interesting development.

[Crumpp]

It wasn't any AI which controlled the aircraft

AI operates the engine when CEM is off....

Well it's a good job you're around to tell us these things.

Well, Not trying to be a jerk. Just pointing out you guys argue and argue for no reason about aircraft performance when most don't even understand the conditions or the proper settings for the aircraft.

For example!!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...95&postcount=9

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Top speed at sea level test with and without 'temp effects' enabled. Both runs done in the free flight England quick mission. Spit MkIa 100oct.

With temp effects on I got 270mph with +11 boost, 3000rpm.

With temp effects off I got 290mph with +11 boost, 3000rpm.

No extra effort or duration of flight was necessary, the Spit was just faster with temp effects off.

The first screenshot is temp effects off, the second temp effects on.

CEM was on in both cases.

Interesting.
I will check the 109, because the overheating causes deadly performance loss in the 109 too, the difference, that the full open water radiator can handle the engine heat. (It is not correct either, i think, it will be change soon. With the radiator air drag.)

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Interesting.
I will check the 109, because the overheating causes deadly performance loss in the 109 too, the difference, that the full open water radiator can handle the engine heat. (It is not correct either, i think, it will be change soon. With the radiator air drag.)

Tom, the tests were run from a dive and I waited for the aircraft to slow to a constant speed. There was no overheating when temp effects were on, as of course there weren't with temp effects off. The loss of speed wasn't due to overheating being the cause of a power loss. Temps were normal but rising fast. The Spit had already slowed down to 270 well before 120 degrees on the rad temp, or over 95 on the oil, in fact on the second screenshot, you can see that the rad temp is about 110......