GTX670 or 7970 For THIS Game?

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Baron

Im sorry, what?

First of all, i have 1280 Gb memory and i never run out on high settings in loD, heck iv managed just fine on 1024 Gb if i lower just a couple of settings from unlimited to high . Standard memory on any GTX 670 is 2 Gb.

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No need to be sorry - just keep the nonsense to yourself... Not running out of VRAM with 1280 on max??? If you play on 640x480 with settings on low you may be right. Ever even tried to run on max? Because I and some others DO run out of VRAM http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33540
This is also brand independant - as I run both ATi and nVidia cards...

Even with engine fixes - in 1 or 2 years this issue will be back! Get VRAM. 2.5+!



Just one piece of general advice: just set a limit of money you want to spend and get the best card over all for the money.
There are way too many fanboys and pseudo experts involved here - your best bet is to read general reviews on tech sites.
Both brands are really very much equal - it's +/- 10% typically. It's not worth the fuss about it really.

[Flanker35M]

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Agree with Madfish here. I am by no means an expert with computers but can hold my own while configuring a gaming rig. So I use a simple phrase for my friends who want to buy a computer: If there is the word "gaming" in the requirement list, forget cheap."

Just saw latest nVidia video sponsoring Borderlands 2 using PhysX. Must admit they can their stuff in marketing, but saw some glaring things that mean the video was just that..a marketing video oozing with gimmicks, but the devil is in the details and anyone with keen eye can see them

[Stublerone]

+1, I am also in the same position as you both.

If my friends ask me, some of my clanmembers or some other experienced jg friends about clod, we will say the same. And that is what the question was: hd7970 or 680 BEST in clod = both are nearly the same fast:-, but we definetly recommend the hd7970 for more variability and less problems in nearly ALL conditions in summary. Everything is well possible with it and there are situations, where you simply cannot run a 680 or they just will get frustrated ( example: triple monitors).

Thx, that 2 guys are facing in the same direction as me and other gamers of sims, who found out the strengths and weakpoints with these cards and can sum up effectively.

[Flanker35M]

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And have to remember that in most reviews they use only FPS games and a few RTS. Very seldom they use any flight sim or similar. The AAA titles are heavily leaning to the brand or another due their popular nature and this will never change. Therefore I test both brands on games I play to get a picture of the performance rather than blindly believe the reviews. So far neither brand has dissapointed me. Now in the AMD camp, next generation card be nV or AMD depending on how they will perform at time of their release. So no real preference here nor foam mouthed fanboi mentality

[Walshy]

I am very brand skeptic, what it boils down to as which is on top in terms of tech reviews, and in pure speed terms AMD cards have slightly pushed ahead but that's only with being able to flash the bios to get that extra ooomph, as to what is the better card all round is goes to nvidia at the moment. In terms of who is using newer chip designs sorry Stublerone it's nvidia as the chip that AMD uses for it's card is now really long in the tooth as it's actually getting on for 5 years with the evergreen codename of cards and that is old tech sorry but AMD lost the plot with it's processors and it's cards as it was still pumping out variations of it's AMD64 processor for far too long after that tech should have been relegated to the dustbin! Sorry but for all your AMD pr boosting nvidia is actually using newer tech!

[Stublerone]

Newer tech with not enough vram to solve stutters. I never talked about technology topics. An electro car is also newer tech with higher efficiency, but a porsche is still the car, which has the balls. Senseless to talk about newer tech, because it can also happen, that the newer tech is having start up problems, which costs money. Nvidia for sure did a tech switch and did it good, but we are still talking about the thread topic: Which card is best to use in clod. My answer: 7970 (full stop)!

I am also aware of your topics. I am not a super engineer, but I am not dumb. I am currently not for one manufacturer and promoting this only. A gamer, who plays multi platform games and do not want to additionally work on cooling, quietness and uses it stock out of the box, I would recommend the 680. But who is spending so much bugs and just let it be the card, as it is? This is, what makes the difference between tech interested enthusiasts and bling bling kids showing balls, which they bought in a store.

You know, what I mean. Such a card is too expensive to be used by kids, not knowing, what it is. Just bought the most expensive one and do not take care on their demand.

My demand: a watercooled card with high vram to be well equipped for some new projects like higher resolutions and triple monitors. So, this is my decision and it is the best currently with such variables and the best for clod, to prevent any stupid and annoying fact to turn out as a huge problem for you personally. I would bite myself in the ass, if the stutters won't be solved for my 680. And I would be very pissed, if the driver stutters are solved and I still have stutter caused by vram.

That is, why I am currently not recommending the 680 as the best card for clod!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Nvidea!

[Stublerone]

Same to me, flanker. This my second ati after some years of nvidia 4200, 6800, 8600, 285. I had some experience with a 4890 and the other name I don't know

So normally I stick with nvidia due to the fact, that I do not care about money, when I am interested in a new card. Just looking at 285 and 4890, there were many games running better with the 4890, but my brother couldn't use it very good for his games.

After reviewing and really taking care about it and talking to many people, doing benchmarks with all different parts all day long, I decided to buy a 7970. The initial benchs of the 680 were hardly discussed for hours and it was simply a horror show, that happebed also at some independant magazines or websites. Some really good sites really did a bad job, mostly reviewed some weeks ago. Now it is all good but this hype was crazy and unfair. Both cards are now equal for my games with a little advantage for my hd7970. I am still glad to have it and I am still convinced, that it is the card of the current generation up to date. I wondered about the good results of the 680 and was impressed, except the point, that they seem to sell a product, which was not fully ready. More features like computing were surely on their plan, but they simply cancel and nevertheless sell it as fully featured (same with bios probs and newest pci-e support not activated, although stated on the package).

Nevertheless there is nothing to argue about. No need of laying his computer engineering balls on the table