Stability and Control characteristics of the Early Mark Spitfires

[winny]

I have some questions. @ Crumpp
We're other contemporary aircraft also tested in this way?
It's all good and well saying the Spit did this, this and this but, how did other aircraft stack up?

Also, how exactly do you intend to model this phenomenon in CLOD?

It seems to depend on stick forces and stick forces aren't calculated in CLOD? Or are they? We all know that the controls on these aircraft stiffend significantly at high speeds, that's not accounted for either.

So really the most important point, considering where we are is, what would you expect to be done to the FM to replicate this?

[MiG-3U]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Which has what to do with the MAC on the weight and balance sheet?

It gives exact location of the leading edge needed for calculation (p.7).

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Spitfire K-9788 shows an aft CG that is 33.2%.

The most aft MAC with the Feb 1944 revision is 31.7%.

I claimed normal service load:

7.7" at normal service load 1939
7.9" aft limit for DeHavilland without inertia device
7.5" aft limit for Rotol without inertia device

This means that on normal combat load there was only change in the case of the Rotol prop assuming that aircraft was properly loaded.

Besides, the revised limits were originally issued sometime around 41/42.

Otherwise you seem to have chosen same tactics as in the FTH discussion so my part end here now.

Cpt Doggles, you see my point now.