Man Made Global Warming

[AndyJWest]

Unless Pencon is someone else, I don't know him from Adam. Sadly though, this thread was doomed from the start to deteriorate into a slanging match - when people can seriously argue that Margaret Thatcher was bribed into participating in a Marxist plot, there is little chance of a rational debate. Not that they seem to want one anyway, since the entire denialist position is based on a rejection of rationality. They know the 'truth' and aren't interested in actually learning anything. You find idiots like this the world over of course - it's just a pity that they have such a dominant voice in US politics, which takes 'dumbing down' to a whole new level.

Anyway, the science is clear, and the loons are wrong. But don't take my word for it, investigate for yourself - you'll soon find how little credibility anyone but the American right wing has for the denialist position. They told a big lie, but nobody believed it but themselves...

[MadBlaster]

Does anyone have a good recipe for fish? I'm getting hungry.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Does anyone have a good recipe for fish? I'm getting hungry.

Can I recommend Fugu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu) - just pop it whole into a pan of boiling water for five minutes, then eat the lot.

Just kidding...

[Warhound]

In an attempt to add something constructive before this thread is locked.
Have a look at this video explaining how both written, audio and visual media can manipulate news and how incredibly easy it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NMglQX6gE

Regardless if you agree with the guy on climate change (check his other uploads)... the manipulation techinques he describes are used daily and I find it very useful to know how some of it is actually done.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Warhound

In an attempt to add something constructive before this thread is locked.
Have a look at this video explaining how both written, audio and visual media can manipulate news and how incredibly easy it is.

Regardless if you agree with the guy on climate change (check his other uploads)... the manipulation techinques he describes are used daily and I find it very useful to know how some of it is actually done.

thank you that was quite entertaining. but had lots of editing and cutaways. What did he really say?

[5./JG27.Farber]

LOL - Channel 4 is blocked in my country on copywright grounds... I live in England...

[pencon]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Unless Pencon is someone else, I don't know him from Adam. Sadly though, this thread was doomed from the start to deteriorate into a slanging match - when people can seriously argue that Margaret Thatcher was bribed into participating in a Marxist plot, there is little chance of a rational debate. Not that they seem to want one anyway, since the entire denialist position is based on a rejection of rationality. They know the 'truth' and aren't interested in actually learning anything. You find idiots like this the world over of course - it's just a pity that they have such a dominant voice in US politics, which takes 'dumbing down' to a whole new level.

Anyway, the science is clear, and the loons are wrong. But don't take my word for it, investigate for yourself - you'll soon find how little credibility anyone but the American right wing has for the denialist position. They told a big lie, but nobody believed it but themselves...

Yeah the science is clear and if anyone has different opinion , even other scientists , they're automatically an idiot . Typical leftist tactics , if someone doesn't agree insult the crap out of them .Andy , if you scroll back you'll notice it was you that hurled the first insults and condescending comments. Mine were merely reactionary .Your attitude is typical of the whole warming cult agenda right from the word go .

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by pencon

Yeah the science is clear and if anyone has different opinion , even other scientists , they're automatically an idiot . Typical leftist tactics , if someone doesn't agree insult the crap out of them .Andy , if you scroll back you'll notice it was you that hurled the first insults and condescending comments. Mine were merely reactionary .Your attitude is typical of the whole warming cult agenda right from the word go .

Since you clearly have XXXX for brains, I see no point in arguing with you. Seek psychiatric help.

P.S. for the benefit of anyone else, I suggest we look back and see where the insults started. Yup, right at the beginning when 5./JG27.Farber started this deranged thread with his ludicrous assertions that an entire worldwide scientific community was engaged in a conspiracy (dating apparently at least back to the 1990s, when Margaret Thatcher was bribed into participating) to bring in a tax based on 'lies' twenty years later. Yeah right...

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[pencon]

Yes andy , you're the only genius here xxxxxxx .If 5./JG27.Farber had a different opinion than your's that's his right . What are you , the opinion nazi ?What did his statement have do do with mine ?If you scroll back to where I entered the topic . I wasn't even talking to you . I merely stated my opinion and you jumped all over me .

[AndyJWest]

Seek psychiatric help. Seriously. You need it.