Man Made Global Warming

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

Of course. The millions of tons of hot charged particles the sun throws our way lately can't have anything to do with the weather on Earth. I mean, who cares that we could see the Aurora Borealis all the way to Texas and the jet stream was broken into pieces from the strong solar bombardment. This can't have anything to do with the weather on this minuscule silly rock.
It's all about this silly little creature called the human. We make and break the weather on earth and in the univers. Who cares about the power of the sun, or the other strange cosmic forces pulling things around our rock. It's all about the superpowers of this silly little creature.

Gosh, I wonder how virtually every climatologist on the planet missed something that obvious?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I'm not close minded at all. If the scientific consensus on global warming changes, my views will change.

I dont think simply believing what we are told is a solid route forward.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

BTW, not agreeing with ignorant propaganda does not make one "close minded".

No it does not. However not listening to an opposing arguement and replying your doubt in a respectable manner and agreeing to disagree does.


I think we should all stop here. Agreed?

[chantaje]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTHsT...feature=relmfu

of course they "inflate" some predictions, and be a bit alarmists. but imo it has no comparisson with the lobbyng of "the dark, crude side" , and the problem is real, maybe earth will not be mars in 100 years but the way the society is managing resources is extremely destructive and cannot last indefenitly

if "we" dont change our sons or grandsons will be forced to

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I dont think simply believing what we are told is a solid route forward.

That's not how science works. Scientists study a subject and write papers explaining their findings. They provide evidence. The papers are published, reviewed and evaluated. No one "just believes what they are told".

And right now the scientific consensus is that global warming is largely the result of human activity. If evidence countering that consensus is found, then it will be probably change. Again, no one "just believes what they are told".

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

No it does not. However not listening to an opposing arguement and replying your doubt in a respectable manner and agreeing to disagree does.

I'll listen to an opposing argument when a credible one is made.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Ill let you have the last word.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I think we should all stop here. Agreed?

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[AndyJWest]

5./JG27.Farber, when you start a thread by making accusations like this:

Carbon foot print and all that balls is just lies. Were being taxed on lies.

... you have no right to complain. Not to mention your suggestion that my politics has anything to do with it. Or does Margaret Thatcher's politics also 'bias' her towards accepting the scientific consensus too? You were clearly trolling right from the start. That all you've done is demonstrate once again the wilful ignorance of the denialists is your own fault.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Gosh, I wonder how virtually every climatologist on the planet missed something that obvious?

Not all of them, and they didn't miss it. They just prefer to ignore it. It's a wild card that can mess up their belifs. The whole idea of human made global warming was a scam to bring in funds.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Sorry I wasn't making myself clear on the tax part. I was specifically referring to ROAD tax which as you know in the UK is based on vehicle emissions and not weight. Which is clearly balls. As weight not emissions is what damages roads and road tax is supposed to be there to maintain those roads.

So you can drive an electric car as much as you want road tax free. However drive a regular car, your paying around 210 quid (It varies, mines a 1.9 diesel). From what Ive seen on car tax the slider goes around 50 pounds either way. However hybrids and electrics are free.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

Not all of them, and they didn't miss it. They just prefer to ignore it. It's a wild card that can mess up their belifs. The whole idea of human made global warming was a scam to bring in funds.

Repeating bollocks doesn't make it true.