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Old 09-23-2012, 09:21 AM
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The cockpit(pilot) of the C-series

Sources for this post:
"Instructions for flying the Messerschmitt 110 A.M. pamphlet 114C"
"Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau

Let's begin with a nice picture from the "A.M. Pamphlet 114C" which shows most probably a C-5(missing cannon round indicator).
The pic can also be found in Kenneth A. Merrick's book "german aircraft interiors"/"deutsche Flugzeug-Cockpits"(book is also translated into german).
If it would be a D-series you would see the 2 additional lamps over the horizon.
And since it has so nice numbers for most of the gauges/switches I will only add the FL-#.

Bf-110 C cockpit.jpg

1 FL-32315-2
6 FL-32823-2
9 9-9502 B
12 FL-20342-2
13 FL-20286-3
14 FL-20550
17 FL-32526
20 FL-29723
30 FL-23300
31 FL-22320
32 FL-23338
33 ZVK-FF
34 SSK 404/2
36 FL-22402
37 FL-22382 in this C-5 (FL-22381-10 in other C-Series? see cockpit of C-1/B)
38 most probalby FL-22426 with the on-off switch 39
40 FL-22231
41 FL-23233
43 FL-22478
The little button [Spkf 1] left to the Revi holder is for bord to bord radio.

Here a little close up of the same pic in better quality.

Bf-110 C cockpit closup.jpg

Have a look at the rev counter (36 as the last number) and the boost gauge plate( d=1,15 ata / |=1,2 ata(30 min.)/ |=1,3 ata(5 min.) for 87 octane fuel)

Now 3 pictures of C-1/B 2N+GN WNr. 2831 build at MIAG(Mühlenbau und Industrie AG) in 1939 and downed by Swiss Bf-109 E's on 8 June 1940.
The interesting part are the 2 white lamps above the horizon, which shouldn'd be in the C-Series.

Bf-110 C-1B Cockpit front.jpg
Bf-110 C-1B cockpit left.jpg
Look at which angle the landing flap indicator is still readable. Also no button box on the left side.
Bf-110 C-1B cockpit right.jpg

The next post will continue with the C-series cockpit(pilot) and show some manual drawings.
If there are questions I will try to answer them.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:22 PM
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I had some free time with GIMP and remodelled the cockpit of the C-7.

Attachment 10751
Cliffs of Dover original cockpit.

Attachment 10752
The revamped cockpit (more to the real deal).
Really nice work! This is what I wish for the C model. Even the "Umschaltwarnung" tag and the two white lamps are wrong in the C model.

I found already are some more issues at bugtracker tool but I think nobody of developers is interested in reading them :/

http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/126
http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/124

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Old 10-06-2012, 02:13 PM
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I had to rework my cockpit pic a little, since I forgot that the box for the prop lever had just another shape instead of deleting it completely.

So here is the new revamped cockpit.
Bf 110 C-7.jpg
The only thing that is still missing (not good at painting) is the ON-OFF switch for the artificial Horizon.

And here are the promised CloD C-7 pics.
Clod C-7 cockpit front.jpg
Clod C-7 cockpit left.jpg
Clod C-7 right.jpg

The wrong Box(came with E-series) with wrong labeling(all of them are fuel pump circuit breaker).
Clod C-7 Box.jpg
Note: The early D-series models had glass circuit breaker for each fuel pump. The thermal circuit breaker (as seen in the pic) were introduced later, so we can assume that they came with the E-series.
And the circuit breaker for the FT-Anlage (Radio-com) is in the main panel by the gunner on the right side of the plane (which is not modeled by the way, but that's for later).

Edit: dammit, I have to rework the stupid Prop lever box again. it should only be the half depth(end at the same level as the gear/flap switches).
Edit2: rework done.

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Old 10-06-2012, 05:46 PM
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Kodoss are you sure with the prop pitch lever console? I think that the C type didn't have such a console at all and the pitch levers stuck on the dash board surface directly.

The "cut" version of that console I would guess was introduced in D type first.



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