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Old 06-02-2008, 11:43 AM
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From experience, although it may seem ridiculous, in the game you'll often save your head by stalling...
Stall means that the guy on your six has 2-3 seconds max to correct aim and hit you + you are quite crappy target to hit considering your non-predictable
flight path (you are still traveling, or better put - falling from the sky at speed ~150km/h), so he still need to provide small deflection on you...

Of course it's a no-no if you are below 1000m, because if you get hit it's likely you'll never recover afterwards.

And I agree with others, it's really only viable if E/A is all over you, close up.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:07 PM
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I stall the inside wing in the early oscars all the time. With enough practice you can "plant" your inside wingtip and whip around it like a sling shot, kind of a midair piruette. To the plane chasing you it looks almost like you change direction instantly and your suddenly coming back at him. If your quick, you can shoot your opponent in the face on the way by, or if your opponent is cool and not suprised by this manuever he might return the favor. It's a calculated risk, but really the only way to fight in an oscar as just about anything is faster than you are. This can be done in an Oscar II but is WAY more difficult as it has a much harsher stall then the earlier birds.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:01 AM
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To those that say they deliberately "stall one wing" how do you do that , what control inputs do you use to "stall" just one wing ?
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:44 AM
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Any spin is a stall of one wing, as is a hammerhead. It requires the input of all controls. If you wish to argue the fine points of what is and is not a stall, you may go ahead and do so, I won't participate.
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:30 PM
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Any spin is a stall of one wing, as is a hammerhead. It requires the input of all controls. If you wish to argue the fine points of what is and is not a stall, you may go ahead and do so, I won't participate.

I always thought a "hammerhead" manouvre was a controlled turn using vertical climb... rudder the wing over, then dive.

It's amzing to watch magpies doing these kinds of manouvres when battling invading mynor birds (hassling little blighters they are) , to protect the nest.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:20 AM
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To those that say they deliberately "stall one wing" how do you do that , what control inputs do you use to "stall" just one wing ?
Lots of different ones but the key is in the rudder work. I find the rudder is key to keep the nose pointed in the right direction.

I've used all kinds of stall techniques to try and get out of harms way. Usually they are last resort and they almost never work but occasionally it helps me out. The best is the spiral with a dose of hard rudder which makes the plane half spiral and half spin...not a good idea to keep going but in a pitched defensive move with some altitude for recovery it can shake the opponent.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:02 AM
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I agree. Its also good to remember that speed matters (aircraft handle differently at high speed, in a dive etc.) and that sometimes the controls used can be counter intuitive. So, experiment.
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:24 PM
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Wing stalling on purpose?... you bet
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