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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:10 PM
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Chivas,

In order to be able to patronise someone, they have to be susceptible. I'm probably a good deal older than you, and a lot more experienced in software dev, having worked in it for a few years some years ago. You're off to a bad start?

So, what are the devs working on next Tuesday, say about lunch-time? Surely your delineated step-by-step explanation of their inner working can yield this info? Now dont tell me the crystal ball is hazing over....

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:13 PM
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David Hayward said:

>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.

Now, justify your posts and presence here. Why? Because I said. (good, innit?)
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:19 PM
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>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.
It's fine with me, too. I'm not looking for people who can't think of any good reasons, I'm looking for someone who does have a good reason.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:31 PM
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You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:53 PM
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You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.
I don't want to get in a tussle with anyone here (it's more fun to stand on the sidelines pointing and laughing) but if it's something that this forum has taught me it's that age has nothing to do with being mature. This is not pointed at anyone in particular, now carry on.....
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:58 PM
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Chivas: no, niet, nada, nein. Once was enough.

But you do prove one hting: most of your posts are the same

(And you need to work harder on the colloquial tone for the put-down. Aim for rmatey-ness. Knowingness is hit-and-miss.)

Go for it, son.

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A polite and respectful "golf clap" for Falstaff....
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:21 PM
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You may be older Falstaff, but I doubt it. If you are you certainly haven't learned much in all your years. Tell you what lets readdress this when you and sim are alittle older, to see if the sim has learned to crawl and you've matured.
Chivas, those in glass houses should not throw bricks. You have the grammar and spelling capability of a 14 year old boy. Common sence really.

And I am being sarcastic. But comments like this are spiteful, no? And serve no purpose to the debate at hand. Addman is right.

Whilst I find you one of the more level-headed posters, Falstaff is correct: you do act as though you have some inside knowledge none of us are aware about. Did you support Tree's posts pre-release? If so I would have to bow down to your current 'knowledge' and assume it's correct; but otherwise history shows that you've got no credible background to substantiate your allegations. I don't think any of us do really: just lucky (fluke-ish on some level; realistic on others) guesses.

CloD isn't a maturing baby. It's a late birth infected with a curable host of illnesses. And you are no doctor; nor are any of us. But at the end of the day, the illnesses are currently unshakeable.

And that may sound harsher than I intend it to be, because I do believe the game will mature into something great: be it through add-ons or community service.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:00 PM
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Chivas, those in glass houses should not throw bricks. You have the grammar and spelling capability of a 14 year old boy. Common sence really.

And I am being sarcastic. But comments like this are spiteful, no? And serve no purpose to the debate at hand. Addman is right.

Whilst I find you one of the more level-headed posters, Falstaff is correct: you do act as though you have some inside knowledge none of us are aware about. Did you support Tree's posts pre-release? If so I would have to bow down to your current 'knowledge' and assume it's correct; but otherwise history shows that you've got no credible background to substantiate your allegations. I don't think any of us do really: just lucky (fluke-ish on some level; realistic on others) guesses.

CloD isn't a maturing baby. It's a late birth infected with a curable host of illnesses. And you are no doctor; nor are any of us. But at the end of the day, the illnesses are currently unshakeable.

And that may sound harsher than I intend it to be, because I do believe the game will mature into something great: be it through add-ons or community service.
Falstaff entered the thread quoting me and throwing the first brick. He has to expect content in kind.

I've had many agruments with Tree and can't remember them all. He seems to be getting respect from people for stating the obvious. That the sim will be delayed. As far as I'm concerned Tree is the poster child for developers not to include the community in the development process as some people just don't understand the process. Even to the point of calling the developer "liars" when they were just explaining what the development was trying to achieve. The developer continually stated there were "No Promises" The other argument was over UBISOFT no longer being involved and I said that wasn't necessarily so, shown by UBISOFT publishing every combat flight sim built by the developer.

As for your comments about my grammar and spelling. When you get older you'll find that common sense isn't necessarily the domain of the educated. Common sense should have told you that I have no inside information, but have a followed the series closely since the start, and know from the developers past comments, what they are trying to achieve. Which could change at any time. Many people still believe that BOM will be built on a different game engine and COD will no longer be supported.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:35 PM
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David..no, you're looking for an argument, as always. Or even better, a question to which there may not be a simple answer, or one which will never be in the public domain. Which suits you down to the ground. ideal. Carry on grand-standing and tub-thumping. So what have you won preciesly? Slightly lower self-esteem, when the mist clears?
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