Community Preference Initiative

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I read quite well - thank you. Perhaps you should go back and read what you wrote. The stuff in bold - the problems you were having. That's what I'm responding to. Perhaps you can calm your temper a bit and realize that I never took a jab at the way you fly, the settings you prefer, or any of the above. I only offered help, not only in finding more players, but in making it easier to track planes.

Maybe next time you'll say what you really mean in your thread starting post.

Also, attacking people trying to help you is really good form.

Did you skip the rest of the post where I posted exactly what I was asking for, and none of them involved your alleged help in tracking enemies?

Correct answer: I did not ask for help in tracking enemies.

Telling me to go to another game is not helpful, and in fact it hurts the community every time someone even says it, because more than likely someone with the same tastes will read that one day, and now you've lost a potential customer, and atleast 2 multiplayer combatants that could have eventually populated your server.

Try to stay on topic, which is server option preferences, and ideas on populating multiple servers to get people to actually log in when they go to Client search instead of just seeing ATAG as the only populated server and then logging off.

I said exactly what I meant in my forum post, you only quoted and remembered what you chose to.

I think I'll take your advice on creating a thread intended only to get people to join me in Sim-Outhouse. I'm logging in now =D

[ATAG_Bliss]

I read the rest of it, of course. And the rest of it were in direct correlation of the beginning portion. "To summarize - you basically said this is what happens when you log into our server and therefore I don't have any fun. Who wants to play with this type of settings?"

Unless I didn't learn anything at all in my 6 years of post education, that looks just like a cause an effect post to me. In other words you basically gave the reason why you don't like the settings/server and would rather have a quick blast type atmosphere.

About the other sims, did you happen to read either my or Chivas response to that????... Where we both said that the game needs to be fixed first and only the most hardcore of sim fans are playing it right now because of all the glaring issues. I'd love to see every single server in the game at max capacity and I think it will get there some day. But if you think it's going to happen at this very instant, you're sadly mistaken.

As I said earlier, other people will come when the game matures.

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I read the rest of it, of course. And the rest of it were in direct correlation of the beginning portion. "To summarize - you basically said this is what happens when you log into our server and therefore I don't have any fun. Who wants to play with this type of settings?"

Unless I didn't learn anything at all in my 6 years of post education, that looks just like a cause an effect post to me. In other words you basically gave the reason why you don't like the settings/server and would rather have a quick blast type atmosphere.

About the other sims, did you happen to read either my or Chivas response to that????... Where we both said that the game needs to be fixed first and only the most hardcore of sim fans are playing it right now because of all the glaring issues. I'd love to see every single server in the game at max capacity and I think it will get there some day. But if you think it's going to happen at this very instant, you're sadly mistaken.

As I said earlier, other people will come when the game matures.

You don't need any post education when the first sentence says "this is where I'm coming from". I told you flat out that it was cause and effect. The cause is a difference in preference, the effect is me trying to gather folks who have the same preference. That's where the 6 years of post education should have come in handy.

If you want to see populated servers, stop telling people to leave.

At any rate, I'm currently sitting in hoping my labor has paid off. I invite anyone who wants some action to come join me.

Edit: Also, I'm thoroughly enjoying CloD in it's current state. I enjoy CEM and temperature management. Am I one of the most hardcore sim fans you know? I think that might be a contradiction to you also saying "other less serious sims" might cater to me more...

[ATAG_Dutch]

I'm just hoping that mxmadman isn't someone I know. And respect.

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

I'm just hoping that mxmadman isn't someone I know. And respect.

I must have been so terribly disrespectful to you.

[ATAG_Dutch]

I wouldn't know mate, your tag isn't one I recognise. But I have this sneaking feeling.....

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

I wouldn't know mate, your tag isn't one I recognise. But I have this sneaking feeling.....

No clan affiliation and madman is a pretty common game tag. I'm fairly sure whomever you could be confusing me with are not one in the same (see forum join date, and posts, etc.). I play online as Madman. I think it shows a little square next to it because my steam name has a character the game doesn't recognize.

But, seriously? To think that if I was someone you did have time to get to know and respect, that this would be something you could not stand to hear from a close friend... confuses me to a degree. So, if I said something so offensive I apologize, it was not my intention. If you would, please, be more specific I'll attempt to explain myself in defense.

But, I now believe you guys, that this does not really have any good possibility of succeeding, so I will give up and stop trying to get more folks to join in.

[Thee_oddball]

This is such an old and tired argument...full switch vs dealer's choice..Well here are the facts...and I do mean facts just not my opinion.

A. whatever!! gets player/pilots into our little niche market is welcome! someone may start in airquake get bored and say ...hey maybe ill try fullswitch! which means there still here unlike a lot of games where once you hit the peak there is no where else to go....except to another game.

B. when the fight starts whether you are on a fullswitch or other you had better know your plane your tactics and what you can do...if not your dead.


the online community is sooooooooo small there is no room for posturing...support each other and sell the game to friends however we can because the WW2 genre is a dieing market and the WW2 flight market is even worse.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by mxmadman

You don't need any post education when the first sentence says "this is where I'm coming from". I told you verbatim that it was cause and effect. The cause is a difference in preference, the effect is me trying to gather folks who have the same preference. That's where the 6 years of post education should have come in handy.

If you want to see populated servers, stop telling people to leave.

At any rate, I'm currently sitting in Sim-Outhouse hoping my labor has paid off. I invite anyone who wants some action to come join me.

Edit: Also, I'm thoroughly enjoying CloD in it's current state. I enjoy CEM and temperature management. Am I one of the most hardcore sim fans you know? I think that might be a contradiction to you also saying "other less serious sims" might cater to me more...

Good deal. Now that you have an understanding on that aspect. Maybe then you can see why others that don't have the problems you are having chime in trying to help you out? Once you understand that, you'll might have an understanding of why I was trying to help you out.

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

Good deal. Now that you have an understanding on that aspect. Maybe then you can see why others that don't have the problems you are having chime in trying to help you out? Once you understand that, you'll might have an understanding of why I was trying to help you out.

Dude you're missing my point. I already know what full realism is about. I've heard what you guys are saying, it's not news to me though. I prefer the big red hud (markers ON SCREEN!). I proved with the stats that other people like the big red hud.

It puts a giant red marker where to shoot, and yes I like it on weeknights. It produces shorter sortiers, and more kills and deaths per hour. I get to use the trigger a lot more.

That's not a sin!

And I proved with numbers that those people MUST BUY THIS GAME TOO. There is no doubt! It would be silly to think there are that many more of us (WW2 era flight combat simmers, or in whatever particular genre you see fit at a similar level of specificity) out there, and yet we see maybe 100 people online at a time. This is the newest prettiest and most sophisticated thing out there, and it's not perfect but it runs.

So I'll bet a lot of the folks I just generally defined already own the game, and they boot it up every so often for whatever reason. They're on the fence between playing Cliffs of Dover, or RoF, or 1946, or Aces High. These guys like the settings I've described, and I tried to prove that with numbers so you guys would see my point.

The problem is no one wants to be the only guy in the server.

I'm trying to do something that no one wants to do, and now I've just evoked wrath from the "faithful purists" by trying to get a group together, and maybe get some people who wouldn't always play with these settings, to come and help me get it started.

It will help bridge a gap and I think could definitely support itself on its own from the people who are moving from the games that I've given the statistics for.

I'm sorry for getting a little irritated, but if I could just get you to understand I'm really not trying to get better at spotting the enemies. Whether or not I become good enough at it to be an Ace does not matter to me. It's the gameplay that it produces - THAT is what I want.