Friday Update, February 10, 2012

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by klem

Thank you BackSix and thanks for the update.
If it is a question of development resources my I suggest a middle road for now (although selectable fuel in the long run would be appreciated). It would mean changing the modelling of only one Spitfire type.

Keep Spitfire I with 87 Octane and two pitch prop
Update Spitfire Ia to 100 Octane fuel and keep Rotol prop (most used type in BoB)
Keep Spitfire II with 87 Octane and Rotol prop (could have 100 octane later, not so many used in BoB)

This along with Ilya's forecast that the basic FMs are being corrected anyway (Spitfire I, Ia, and 109s).

Only the Spitfire Ia would need new power modelling.

Not only Spitfire IA need FM revsion. I think need it many planes in CLod.

During BoB both Spitfire MK1 and Hurrciane MK1 used 100 Octan fuel and +12 lbs boost emergency power. We need it both like it was historicaly.

Also 109 E need FM revision - atually there were too slow.

All planes need changes in service celling which now in CLOD is really off.

In sum most planes from CLOD need FM and performacne revsion.

Here in these topic there are RL data and comparision with CLOD:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20110


So:

Keep Spitfire I with 87 Octane and two pitch prop - AGREE

Update Spitfire Ia to 100 Octane fuel and keep Rotol prop (most used type in BoB) - YEP 100 OCTAN for Spit IA but with DeHaviland Constant Speed Propeller Unit

Spitfire II with 87 Octane and Rotol prop (could have 100 octane later, not so many used in BoB) - DONT AGREE - NEED 100 OCTAN FUEL SPIT II which used +12 lbs Emergency Power - everthying is in SPit MK II manual

Also there could be 2 types of Hurricane:

- MK1 early with 2 stage DH prop pitch - 87 Octan fuel
- MKI late with Rotol prop - 100 Octan fuel

ALso 109 E need performance revision beacuse with 1.42/1.45 Ata there are too slow - 109 E should reach about 490-500 km/h at deck - now is only 460 km/h.

All these planes have too low maxiumum service celling


So for accurate and historical both online and offline gameplay we need deeply FM&Performacne revision.

I know what im talking about beacuse im in the topic for long time and made some FM revsion for IL2 mods planes expecially BOB fighters like Spitfire, 109 and Hurricane and 110 C-4.

So i think if in incoming patch there will be not solid and professional FM revision for these planes many people will be really dissapointment expecially when Luthier promise that there will be FM and performacne revsion in coming patch some time ago.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Not only Spitfire IA need FM revsion. I think need it many planes in CLod.

During BoB both Spitfire MK1 and Hurrciane MK1 used 100 Octan fuel and +12 lbs boost emergency power. We need it both like it was historicaly.

Also 109 E need FM revision - atually there were too slow.

All planes need changes in service celling which now in CLOD is really off.

In sum most planes from CLOD need FM and performacne revsion.

Here in these topic there are RL data and comparision with CLOD:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20110


So:

Keep Spitfire I with 87 Octane and two pitch prop - AGREE

Update Spitfire Ia to 100 Octane fuel and keep Rotol prop (most used type in BoB) - YEP 100 OCTAN for Spit IA but with DeHaviland Constant Speed Propeller Unit

Spitfire II with 87 Octane and Rotol prop (could have 100 octane later, not so many used in BoB) - DONT AGREE - NEED 100 OCTAN FUEL SPIT II which used +12 lbs Emergency Power - everthying is in SPit MK II manual

Also there could be 2 types of Hurricane:

- MK1 early with 2 stage DH prop pitch - 87 Octan fuel
- MKI late with Rotol prop - 100 Octan fuel

ALso 109 E need performance revision beacuse with 1.42/1.45 Ata there are too slow - 109 E should reach about 490-500 km/h at deck - now is only 460 km/h.

All these planes have too low maxiumum service celling


So for accurate and historical both online and offline gameplay we need deeply FM&Performacne revision.

I know what im talking about beacuse im in the topic for long time and made some FM revsion for IL2 mods planes expecially BOB fighters like Spitfire, 109 and Hurricane and 110 C-4.

So i think if in incoming patch there will be not solid and professional FM revision for these planes many people will be really dissapointment expecially when Luthier promise that there will be FM and performacne revsion in coming patch some time ago.

+1

This and your original post (which you linked to above) covers it precisely IMHO. Hopefully Ilya's data matches this.

Thanks for reposting.

[III/JG53_Don]

Thanks for the Update! Am I hearing right, that we can hear new parts of the Sound Engine Beta? Guess the Stuka sounds way better than in our present version?!

[csThor]

@ BlackSix

I wonder how much chances do you see that the systems inaccuracies listed in this thread are being corrected? -> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29526

There are a number of bugs to be fixed but also real mistakes (probably misunderstandings of foreign manuals) which need correction. Any chance that such things get fixed at all?

[BlackSix]

1) I showed this post about the fuel Ilya, he will think about this problem
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=112

2)

Originally Posted by csThor

@ BlackSix

I wonder how much chances do you see that the systems inaccuracies listed in this thread are being corrected? -> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29526

I gave a link to this post to all who need on Monday

3) Information about the patch
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1789544

Graphic component is almost ready, but there are still a few problems.
We do not have time to make a patch next week, will have to wait

[csThor]

Thanks a lot. For some odd reason I feel a great interest in the Stuka (don't ask me to explain it - I just can't ) and found a few inaccuracies which should really be fixed. All I found are listed in said thread ... among many others.

PS: If you guys need help in understanding the german manual (which I have here, I can provide it) just ask. Ilya has my e-mail and you can contact me via PM here.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by csThor

Thanks a lot. For some odd reason I feel a great interest in the Stuka (don't ask me to explain it - I just can't ) and found a few inaccuracies which should really be fixed. All I found are listed in said thread ... among many others.

PS: If you guys need help in understanding the german manual (which I have here, I can provide it) just ask. Ilya has my e-mail and you can contact me via PM here.

Stuka power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8omGCPpoSJo

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

1) I showed this post about the fuel Ilya, he will think about this problem
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=112

Thx for your action BlackSix but truly speaking i think most here though that flight model and performacne of BoB planes in CLOD got high priority in incoming patch?

Originally Posted by luthier

Hi everyone,

The patch has gone up to steam. It should autoupdate your game version in a few hours once it propagates down to the world. As long as autoupdate is enabled in your steam (Library – Cliffs of Dover – RMB – Properties – Updates – Always keep this game up to date) you do not to take any further actions.

Patch notes can be found below.

And here’s where we are in terms of plans. We obviously remain hard at work on the series. We will continue to improve the game up until the eventual release of its sequel.

Our main priorities now are:

1. Physics and FM. This means plane behavior in the air, brand new landing gear model on the ground, collision modeling including tree collision (if performance allows), and improved vehicle physics.


v1.05.15950 patch notes:

I could say that if you need some help regarding BoB planes performance ( expecially fighters planes) i could be usefull.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

I could say that if you need some help regarding BoB planes performance ( expecially fighters planes) i could be usefull.

Like the Merlin III +9lbs rating...

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/view...188357#p188357

No offence mate.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

Graphic component is almost ready, but there are still a few problems.
We do not have time to make a patch next week, will have to wait

BlackSix - thank you very much for today's update and further information. That's great service indeed.