Friday Update, February 3, 2012

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Do you know why AA isnt included in the game, in the first place?

My personal opinion is that reasons are the same as with other not-finished stuff, i.e. several mistakes and disasters happened during development process: bad decisions + pride&arrogance of some programmers after Il-2 success + economic crisis = Softclub merger and "anti-crisis management" (other people than Oleg making decisions) = many old programmers fired or left, new programmers have to start many things from scratch and/or decipher code = needs several more years to complete, but publisher does not have more resources and sets a deadline for release anyway.

As I mentioned here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...postcount=1159 (edit: wrong link corrected):

... Softclub merger happened in 2009 IIRC due to economic crisis. Then anti-crisis management took command and many employees of the team left. After the launch Oleg wrote on his Youtube channel that he is not sure if the team would be allowed to finish the product. Remember how happy luthier was bringing here the news that the project will be continued?

Regarding roadmap I think luthier mentioned some in spring and summer but then they did not got through it. Maybe because new people have to decipher someone else's code which can be a nightmare. Maybe there are other reasons. They can not tell us because of NDA with UBI and 1C/Softclub bosses, especially on the official forums.

Why all the above happened? Oleg as a man took responsibility for 2 major reasons: 1) did not insist on making CloD using old IL-2 engine and believed some team members that the new engine can be done in shorter time, 2) attempted to meet all user requests, wishes and dreams as it was in Il-2 which was not possible in the new engine because of its complexity (much more people had to be hired which did not happen due to many reasons - crisis and other)
Source: http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1683314

Originally Posted by Ataros

My personal opinion is that reasons are the same as with other not-finished stuff, ......

Here, you said what Im saying all this time. Because of that Ive been criticized and called a whiner and an "enemy of the state".....

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Here, you said what Im saying all this time. Because of that Ive been criticized and called a whiner and an "enemy of the state".....

As there are positive and negative sides in CloD I am trying to focus my attention on positive sides in other posts (which is more constructive and helpful) and do not focus my attention on negative destructive side unless specifically asked a question. Then I am trying not to blame anyone, hate anyone or put responsibility for my own personal decision to purchase the game and upgrade my PC on anyone. Describing facts and negatively judging them are different things. Being positive helps to get out of trouble, being negative may cause suicide of CloD (Luthier and/or some team-members quitting).

Maybe this makes my opinion more balanced, sometimes constructive and not an "enemy of the state's" one

Sorry for OT.

Originally Posted by Ataros

As there are positive and negative sides in CloD I am trying to focus my attention on positive sides in other posts (which is more constructive and helpful) and do not focus my attention on negative destructive side unless specifically asked a question. Then I am trying not to blame anyone, hate anyone or put responsibility for my own personal decision to purchase the game and upgrade my PC on anyone. Describing facts and negatively judging them are different things. Being positive helps to get out of trouble, being negative may cause suicide of CloD (Luthier and/or some team-members quitting).

Maybe this makes my opinion more balanced, sometimes constructive and not an "enemy of the state's" one

Sorry for OT.

In general - I agree with you. Then again, CLOD wasnt advertised as "not finished" or "Soon available for 10 bucks" "Dont buy now for 50!". Never mind. Lets turn the page. Hope better times are ahead.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

In general - I agree with you. Then again, CLOD wasnt advertised as "not finished" or "Soon available for 10 bucks" "Dont buy now for 50!". Never mind. Lets turn the page. Hope better times are ahead.

I corrected the wrong link in the 1st of my above 2 messages. There I wrote my opinion on a similar question asked by Furbs. I may be wrong though but we will not know this for sure.

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

In general - I agree with you. Then again, CLOD wasnt advertised as "not finished" or "Soon available for 10 bucks" "Dont buy now for 50!". Never mind. Lets turn the page. Hope better times are ahead.

That resumes it well...And I would add that there are'nt many Developpers out there that have the privilege at a second shot after such a disastrous launch...And so many bad reviews everywhere....
And it is obvious that everyone knows that at 1C...That is why we should be positive and have faith..It is more than a game at stake here for all 1C's gang....
So go for it ! It will be a splendid game this time !

Salute !

[king1hw]

Like I said in a different forum on here that to not give all the engine variants to the fighters (LW and RAF) is BSSSSS. Allow the server to decide how they are going to progress the war. To keep holding this back is a joke and to have only 3 flyable allied plans again makes for less enjoyment and it is why many are now waiting for BOM and this game to be fixed. Because of the crappy release they are scrambling for money instead of fixing said game CLOD and increasing its sales is a shame in marketing. Sales will increase if this small market of simulation junkies start writing on forums about how great it is getting. I think for myself I am tired of this sim looking one sided since no server is flying the 2a. and the Rotol is good however against the 109e1 it is and easy kill for a good 109 pilot.

Last I am looking forward to the update on graphics, but if you are not meeting the promises made prior how are we to have faith in you finishing what you have started. Like I said so many are sitting on the wings with this game and more could be sold if you get your act in gear. Or you could dump it like MS and Aces studio open the sdk and the community will take over and begin to fix this sim. I for one hope you keep it in house and fix it right. But then again that is HOPE!

Good Luck and I will wait patiently till you give us the accurate FM and DM of the day.

King

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Maybe this makes my opinion more balanced, sometimes constructive and not an "enemy of the state's" one

Oh lookout! If you didn`t write "maybe" in your sentence they would finally understand the difference.

That is if I`m not too optimistic.