4.11 F4U Performance

[BadAim]

On the other hand, most of us probably have more hours in this sim than any WWII pilot could ever dream of having in real life. Perhaps we should do better?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by BadAim

On the other hand, most of us probably have more hours in this sim than any WWII pilot could ever dream of having in real life. Perhaps we should do better?

I think that's very much the truth. Aside from the not dying and the terror of it all... we also have the advantage of hindsight and so much more time to practice. The average USAAF pilot in 1941 had very little idea of what capabilities the Zero had. The first time I went against a Zero in a P-40 I knew exactly what the Zero's reputation was and how to defeat it.

Of course, not all pilots out there are also students of history... but some are!

[Whacker]

I'm not 100% sure about F4U's operating from CVEs during WWII, but I've seen a number of pictures of them on the end of the flight deck waiting for takeoff during the Korean War.

[ElAurens]

Those would be the later versions that have a LOT more power than the WW2 birds did.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Those would be the later versions that have a LOT more power than the WW2 birds did.

LOL, power is great equalizer is it not?

[Bob_Drugstore_Arp]

Originally Posted by Whacker

I'm not 100% sure about F4U's operating from CVEs during WWII, but I've seen a number of pictures of them on the end of the flight deck waiting for takeoff during the Korean War.

Catapult is utilized on the end of the flight deck. So you've seen those Corsairs there.

[WhistlinggDeath]

Sawyer, my man, I just read thru all 19 pages of this post and took a bit to digest it (and look at everyone's links as well and documentation). Then I looked at the source code for the new Corsair flight models in 4.11, versus 4.10.1. As you can tell from my callsign, I fly Corsairs in full real..... alot. For 18 months, thru Hyperlobby, I operated a primarily full real duel server and got many, many corsair challenges. In 248 matches (and counting) of corsair versus corsair (with exact same plane, same starting altitude, same fuel load and same armament, etc..), I have not been defeated. (actually, I have been defeated but in the Bf-109 G2, which I dislike). Like you, Hombre and many others, I know the Corsair well. When to run in it, when to turn with it (and against whom), at what alt to climb at, etc... etc...

..All said and done, 4.11 is a downgrade. And not because the reality was that that was in fact how the corsair actually flew.

The corsair in 4.10.1 or any previous patch never matched real life corsairs (when I compare all the documentation presented) but as several noted, .... was acceptable, and if used correctly, could still kill well, provided the opposition did not all fly the Spit 25lbs and 185 M-71. In 4.11, the Corsair has been (along with the P51, TA, FWs and Tempy) downgraded by the changed FM along with the effects of the over reaching overheat model. I couldnt agree with any poster that I have seen here at the 1C forums more than what I have read from your comments. I believe you are USN_Sawyer correct ? If so, I have met you and you can indeed fly the corsair close to its operational limits (and the people I say this of, number about five to seven). I know that Hombre is USN_Hombre, so are you, USN_Sawyer ?

[Pips]

Sad to say but I don't think you will ever convince the TD Team WhistlinggDeath. I agree with you, the F4U is under-modelled, as is the F6F. Less so the F4F, P-51 and the P-47. The P-38, P-39 and P-40 are quite good.

[sawyer692]

Originally Posted by WhistlinggDeath

I believe you are USN_Sawyer correct ? If so, I have met you and you can indeed fly the corsair close to its operational limits (and the people I say this of, number about five to seven). I know that Hombre is USN_Hombre, so are you, USN_Sawyer ?

Correct, USN_Saw actually. I'm OPS officer at USN squad.

Thanks for the support!

I'm not too concerned with the top speed (it actually seems pretty close) or the turning really. Those can be re-learned by practice.

It's simply getting off the carrier that bothers me.

Thankfully, they said they would fix it and our squad awaits anxiously for the next patch.

(Your name is very familiar but I can't place you. Where have we met??)

[WhistlinggDeath]

Yes Sawyer, I have flown with USN before on a few missions and hosted Hombre for a few fights (but way back in early 2010). Have also flown with BS_Vidar and a few of the Black Sheep on occasion. Aside from a few difficult fights with 357th_ULTI and LYNX_11, always had a hard time locating skilled Corsair foes to fight or fly with. You, Vidar and maybe one or two others are all I can remember as being really competent