A mod approval thought for 4.09 for the 1C team

[Thunderbolt56]

Originally Posted by Baron

Not long ago AAA did NOT "allow" FM, DM (weapons) changes but now it seems thats out the window with for ex. a completly new Spit Mk1 with a completly new flight model done by people in the manner they "think" it should be, the same people who a few months ago did not allow FM, DM changes btw...

I guess that's the thing I take issue with overall. I lurk over at AAA and have done considerable reading on what IS being done, what HAS been done and what's NOT ALLOWED to be done... at least for now. The "idea" of finally getting a MKI Spit is cool, but the whole thing goes against what heretofore was taboo. So, in that regard, I don't get it. Are there rules in the mod community? They say there are, but apparently some have the notion they're above the law or can change them if they feel like it...regardless of how much integrity they think they use in the implementation.

I've heard great things about the MKI as well as the very good "slot" map that's close to release and, for now at least, it seems the people that do it to truly enhance the sim are the ones in charge. I'm just worried about the less-trustworthy people that truly DO hack and I'm growing more exhausted at feeling I have to scrutinize everyone so closely. All the rumors that the sky is falling, IL2 is dead, the UBI forums are a rotting corpse etc,... are vastly over rated. Things have changed and they certainly aren't what they were even a year ago, but all of them are like a 60 year old...(long in the tooth, but not quite ready for retirement).

We are at a point where people have more choices regarding this sim and most will make good choices. It's the 2% that don't (and the inability to regulate them) that concerns me the most. And just so I'm not misunderstood, I'm not advocating against the mods or the mod community. I have some friends that are heavily involved (in both use and developement) and I trust their integrity implicitly. I don't like the fragmentation of the overall community, the possibility of true cheaters getting larger and the resultant accusations (many on false grounds).

[csThor]

At least the notion that they (AAA) have any kind of "seniority" or "saying" about the macks provides at least one good laugh a day. Talk about self-delusion. I'd bet my graphics tablet that there are a pile of other sites which "correct" FM/DM.

[WilliVonBill]

Originally Posted by csThor

I'd bet my graphics tablet that there are a pile of other sites which "correct" FM/DM.

Might want to be careful Thor... that's a good way to lose a perfectly good graphics tablet!


I may not agree with your postion, but I respect your passion for your viewpoint. But even you have to admit you got a wee bit carried away with that statement. If there are "corrected FM/DMs" out there, I certainly haven't been able to find 'em.

[tater]

Nope. Maybe for those capable of looking closer to 1C's home, perhaps. I can't read the russian sites, myself.

I've seen none. Zero. (and I've looked).

[csThor]

That's what I meant., tater. There is a wall between "us" and "the russian community" and that wall is called language barrier.
I remember Oleg making fun of the way people talk to him in different boards - russian players accuse him of overmodelling german aircraft and being "unpatriotic", german players accuse him of overmodelling the russian crates, british players accuse him of ignoring the british effort and finally US players keep saying that he hates their aircraft and the US in general. If you take that mindset into consideration (and it's enough if a handful of people share that) and remember that the hacking tools are available it would be grossly negligent not to expect that people are going to fiddle with the FM to "correct" things they see as wrong ...