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Old 01-25-2012, 03:11 PM
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LOL. Seriously, you really thought I need practice? Trust me, I can easily shoot your ass off in a duel. I really don't know why some of you like to treat complainers as noobs, every time.

As for the MW50 usage, I suggest you do some reading before putting up something like that.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:16 PM
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LOL. Seriously, you really thought I need practice? Trust me, I can easily shoot your ass off in a duel. I really don't know why some of you like to treat complainers as noobs, every time.

As for the MW50 usage, I suggest you do some reading before putting up something like that.
Maybe that is because you are one?

MW50 was not meant to allow you to stay longer in a fight, it was meant to allow you to get your ass back home in one piece. It should allow the pilots to get out of a nasty spot in the fastest way, helping to cool/prevent further heating of the engine in level flight or shallow dives/climbes at max rated power.

You really are not able to present yourself in any way as a respectable contributor to the present argument.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:25 PM
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Maybe that is because you are one?

MW50 was not meant to allow you to stay longer in a fight, it was meant to allow you to get your ass back home in one piece. It should allow the pilots to get out of a nasty spot in the fastest way, helping to cool/prevent further heating of the engine in level flight or shallow dives/climbes at max rated power.

You really are not able to present yourself in any way as a respectable contributor to the present argument.
What creative thoughts! You thought those German aces earned that multitude of kills by running home to mama?

No offense. But now I begin to doubt your sanity.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:32 PM
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What creative thoughts! You thought those German aces earned that multitude of kills by running home to mama?

No offense. But now I begin to doubt your sanity.
It's not like they singlehandedly attacked a whole fighter wing and shot down most them*.
It was either hit and run, one to one, or the the foxhunt tactics.

* that did happen, but then it was one German state of the art fighter vs many soviet pos planes.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:35 PM
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Well, you two said it as if you have been through the war. Can you please provide some proof to support your argument?
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:41 PM
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zorin or me?
There are tons of yt vids to confirm this.

I think it was a vid of Hartmann(or whoever collided with a la or lagg midair) where he said:
"I used to say to my fellow pilots; many dogs catch the rabbit, hahaha".
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:44 PM
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Video? LOL

Seriously, how old are you?
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:32 PM
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What creative thoughts! You thought those German aces earned that multitude of kills by running home to mama?

No offense. But now I begin to doubt your sanity.
No, you are of course quite right, they stayed in their fights against multiple opponents until their engines blew up in their faces and out of respect the enemies darted their planes in the ground as a farewell to them while they were gliding back to base.

God, you are so stupid words fail me...
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:49 PM
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Well, in Il-2 WM 50 works a little differently and is only associated with higher boost settings. Don't expect to be able to run 10 minutes of high boost just because WM 50 is engaged with absolutely zero consequences, especially if you're slow and turning

If you do some reading as well you will find that the max continuous operation time could vary, and be as little as 5 minutes. There was a required "cold-down" period before it could be engaged again. Engines that went to full boost for any practical length of time developed cracks and fouled spark plugs and had to be overhauled. Engines that went to full boost without the WM 50 would have seized within a few minutes.

Anyway, I did a quick run in a Bf-109, and it was a full two minutes before the "Overheat!" message appeared (it is a bit conservative, BTW). A little over 15 minutes later, the fuel ran out (I spawned in the air with 50%). There was no loss of RPM or manifold pressure throughout the time that WM50 was engaged.

So what exactly is the problem again?

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Old 01-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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Well, in Il-2 WM 50 works a little differently and is only associated with higher boost settings. Don't expect to be able to run 10 minutes of high boost just because WM 50 is engaged with absolutely zero consequences, especially if you're slow and turning

If you do some reading as well you will find that the max continuous operation time could vary, and be as little as 5 minutes. There was a required "cold-down" period before it could be engaged again. Engines that went to full boost for any practical length of time developed cracks and fouled spark plugs and had to be overhauled. Engines that went to full boost without the WM 50 would have seized within a few minutes.

Anyway, I did a quick run in a Bf-109, and it was a full two minutes before the "Overheat!" message appeared (it is a bit conservative, BTW). A little over 15 minutes later, the fuel ran out (I spawned in the air with 50%). There was no loss of RPM or manifold pressure throughout the time that WM50 was engaged.

So what exactly is the problem again?
Who said I expected to run MW50 at 110% for ten minutes every time? But if you have ever lasted for 10 mins before the engine dying out in game, please upload the ntrk.

If 10 mins was historically a rare number that is extremely hard to achieve. Why would they include it into the manual? They must have already left some margin here. 10 mins should have been a quite common number during aircraft service that is not so difficult to achieve.

And we would like to see your ntrk for the test fly you described.
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