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Old 01-22-2012, 12:46 PM
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I'll probably support this one as well. The trouble is though, if it turns out to be modelled far more realistically than CloD and you enjoy using all the new bells and whsitles then it won't feel great going back to a simplified CloD model.

I am pleased with what 1c have given us in terms of CEM. However, I do think they need to tweak things a bit to make the figures match the manuals more accurately and add a few missing elements such as parking brake, priming etc. for those who like it full real.

The feeling of flight and superb sound of CloD will really take some beating in my opinion. I was bobbing around in the water the other day and was totally enthralled listening to a dogfight overhead - incredibly real. The new sound guy really deserves a medal.

Once they fix the outstanding issues then CloD should be hard to compete with - huge maps, large number of period objects and aircraft etc. Attention to detail.....
everything you described in the last half of your post 'won't' happen in the DCS sim, you will get a P-51 to fly and that's it.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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everything you described in the last half of your post 'won't' happen in the DCS sim, you will get a P-51 to fly and that's it.
I think you're right there bongodriver. Still, a bit of competition on the realism front might keep 1c on their toes. I know for a fact that things like priming will have zero effect on game performance as the code only needs to run pre-startup. Great for immersion though - I'd love to be able to flood my engine through sloppy priming. They really are so close to the full startup procedure that it seems crazy not to go the full distance - with options of course for those who like things simpler.
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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Well if ED models that P51D in same detail as their other planes like A10C then we will have a nice plane to fly around with. And with modelling I mean all switches etc. working.
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I've been tooling around in FSX flying both the P-51b and P-51d from Warbirdsim. The plane models are amazing, fully the equal to CoDs in my opinion. But, I find myself wishing for an equally amazing damage model, guns and air combat. If ANYONE can produce a flightsim with those ingredients using A2A or Warbirdsim product as a base, I'm there. I think a lot of us feel an allegiance to IL2 to the extreme we don't think anyone else can do a WWII flightsim accurately. At this point, I think the market is there if someone has the ability to step in.
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I've been tooling around in FSX flying both the P-51b and P-51d from Warbirdsim. The plane models are amazing, fully the equal to CoDs in my opinion. But, I find myself wishing for an equally amazing damage model, guns and air combat. If ANYONE can produce a flightsim with those ingredients using A2A or Warbirdsim product as a base, I'm there. I think a lot of us feel an allegiance to IL2 to the extreme we don't think anyone else can do a WWII flightsim accurately. At this point, I think the market is there if someone has the ability to step in.
It's not about plane modelling only, however, it is the whole WW2 setting. And frankly, I rather have a larger collection of different aircraft, even if not detailed to the last bit, then only a very few ones with so many buttons that managing it becomes a choir.
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Old 01-22-2012, 04:18 PM
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So by the looks of it the DCS Mustang will be modelled very carefully from FM/DM to avionics and cockpit instrumentation and procedures Great news indeed! We are in for a treat from many fronts!
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Think I found the DCS orginal therad on this topic

DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012

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The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics will release their next Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) aircraft in 2012: the legendary P-51D Mustang. The Mustang was among the best and most well-known fighters used by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Possessing excellent range and manoeuvrability, the P-51 operated primarily as a long-range escort fighter and also as a ground attack fighter-bomber with bombs, rockets, and machine guns. The Mustang served in nearly every combat zone during WWII, and later fought in the Korean War.

The DCS: P-51D Mustang will be modelled at the same exacting detail as the existing Ka-50 Black Shark and A-10C Warthog Digital Combat Simulation (DCS) aircraft and it will be online compatible with them. Based on many years of restoring, flying and maintaining Mustangs, The Fighter Collection brings its unique ability to portray this aircraft in its full glory.

The P-51D will be the first aircraft in the Flying Legends series that focuses on historical aircraft that have set benchmarks in combat aviation. This series of simulations demonstrates the broad scope of DCS simulation environment and its ability to introduce aircraft from all eras into a common simulation environment. While the P-51D started as an internal technology demonstration, it has evolved into an independent product that adds an all new dimension to the DCS universe. The development of the P-51D and other Flying Legends series aircraft definitely does not preclude the continued development of modern aircraft.

More details of DCS: P-51D Mustang will be made available closer to product release later this year.

More information, visit: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com
It has a few more pictures too

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