P-51D into DCS Sims.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

You don't fire up people to fly online, when you have a Russian Hellicopter on one side and an American Attack Aircraft. You can't create a good competitive online environment this way.

I was looking for BlackShark vs. A10 online videos and did not find any. Looks like they did not provide any good online missions for them.

Doesn't MSFS have a P-51 addon with similar quality?

[Ctrl E]

Originally Posted by Ataros

I was looking for BlackShark vs. A10 online videos and did not find any. Looks like they did not provide any good online missions for them.

Doesn't MSFS have a P-51 addon with similar quality?

Yup. But not with working weapons and no damage model.

Lates screen shots over at DCS shows their P-51's .50 cals spewing lead.

I guess they'll also have bombs and rockets.

[xnomad]

I'd be happy with a game that purely had 2 fly-ables. E.g. Spit vs bf109/FW190.

The planes would be modeled to the max, with every button, lever, dial and switch working. CEM would be as real as it can possibly get.

With COD and IL2 it's nice to fly all those different aircraft but for the majority of the time I fly just 2 types. It would prefer a developer who concentrated getting just two planes right and not spending so much time making other aircraft, which spreads the quality of the aircraft out thinly.

In an ideal world the Flight Sim studios would band together to make a unified game engine and then each of them concentrated on making one plane to fly in it.

[furbs]

You could have a whole series of sims like that...

Spit vs 109
P51 vs 190
Spit vs 109 midwar
Zero vs hellcat


i would pay for a sim that did that...

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by furbs

You could have a whole series of sims like that...

Spit vs 109
P51 vs 190
Spit vs 109 midwar
Zero vs hellcat


i would pay for a sim that did that...

Hmmm sounds too much like a dogfight game for my liking, we would need some bombers.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by furbs

You could have a whole series of sims like that...

Spit vs 109
P51 vs 190
Spit vs 109 midwar
Zero vs hellcat


i would pay for a sim that did that...

Without an alternative, I would play it as well. But I'd not be happy. The strengh of the IL2 franchise always has been the inclusion of more dubious types of aircraft thrown together. The setup as described here is getting so old that it hurts.

Give me I16s, IL2s, IAR80s, Mig3s and Fiats instead.

[Ctrl E]

Competition is a very, very good thing.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

The setup as described here is getting so old that it hurts.

Give me I16s, IL2s, IAR80s, Mig3s and Fiats instead.

Agreed! One more Spitfire or 109 model and I might actually throw up. I want French planes, Italian planes, semi-obscure Russian planes so on so fourth. I hope the IL-2 series will be more diverse in planesets in the future expan-quels.

[MegOhm]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

DCS series are study sims.

High realism in the cockpit, and in the models.

They are not multiplayer oriented combat sims.

At the rate they release new aircraft and maps it would take 20 years for them to cover one theater of operations. And that does not include developing good multiplayer online coding.

They pose no threat to the IL2 franchise.

I doubt I would buy it just for the P51, as jets have no interest to me beyone the Korean War period. Too many darned buttons.

But I wish them well, they do make a quality, if limited, product.

Ummm Wrong.... The DCS A10 is very much Multiplayer oriented... The P-51 is one legend aircraft and their will be others added...With the right maps anything is possible so with the right aircraft...You could easily write Coop missions for say ...WWII engagements

Right now our small squad does MP Coops all the time in A10, The KA-50 Blackshark was recently merged and soon I believe FC3 will be as well. There is also another jet being added which we hope will be the F18 with Carrier OPs... So you have 3 Sims that can join together if you have any one of them, plus the coming new Fixed Wing and Legends Series. The DCS concept is leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else... and Shock...they work. For instance... We flew a mission the other night with 6 humans...3 were in A10s and 3 were in KA-50s...two different Sims flying the same mission in the same server... Also a new Nellis Map is about to be added.... So maps can be done in less than 20 years...Ha!

With the P-51 and others to come all we need is a map and WWII Missions will happen. DCS has it right...their products work and I doubt it would take 20 years... Since you are not intersted and do not fly them..your lack of understanding is understood. Sure there are lots of buttons...I have at least 52...but it does not take long to master them if you fly alot. These "study sims" are the ticket if you want immersion...

From Matt Wagner: The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics will release their next Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) aircraft in 2012: the legendary P-51D Mustang. The Mustang was among the best and most well-known fighters used by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Possessing excellent range and manoeuvrability, the P-51 operated primarily as a long-range escort fighter and also as a ground attack fighter-bomber with bombs, rockets, and machine guns. The Mustang served in nearly every combat zone during WWII, and later fought in the Korean War.

The DCS: P-51D Mustang will be modelled at the same exacting detail as the existing Ka-50 Black Shark and A-10C Warthog Digital Combat Simulation (DCS) aircraft and it will be online compatible with them. Based on many years of restoring, flying and maintaining Mustangs, The Fighter Collection brings its unique ability to portray this aircraft in its full glory.

The P-51D will be the first aircraft in the Flying Legends series that focuses on historical aircraft that have set benchmarks in combat aviation. This series of simulations demonstrates the broad scope of DCS simulation environment and its ability to introduce aircraft from all eras into a common simulation environment. While the P-51D started as an internal technology demonstration, it has evolved into an independent product that adds an all new dimension to the DCS universe. The development of the P-51D and other Flying Legends series aircraft definitely does not preclude the continued development of modern aircraft.

Maybe in the next few months or years CLOD will work without freezing or Crashing...Here's hoping it doesn't take that long ...but hey..they have only been working on CLOD for 11 years now....

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by MegOhm

Ummm Wrong.... The DCS A10 is very much Multiplayer oriented...

How can the game be muliplayer orientated when you can't even run a MP dedicated server for it? Every server needs to have a video card to even launch MP. That's about as far from MP orientated as it gets. Most hosters, like us for instance, run high end dual cpu rack mounted machines that are connected to a an internet trunk line - aka 10gpbs etc. to handle server traffic. With any DCS game you have to do all of this with basically a home machine that must have a video card and then you'll be on crappy tiered down home network connections. Sorry, but that isn't MP orientated at all.