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Old 01-16-2012, 08:56 PM
K_Freddie K_Freddie is offline
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If you get your mindset right, you can dictate the combat even in an inferior plane, and with somebody on your 6.

First of all.. you're in a slower plane.
This generally means you can turn better - So you use this to your advantage.

The ME109 is coming from 'advantage' so you need to reduce this advantage.
You 'bait' him/her/AI by going into a gentle turn but keeping an eye on your attacker.
You turn in such a way that the deflection is just too much for the attacker to get a lead shot on you. By doing this you keep your speed up and bleed their speed.
If the attacker suddenly pulls extra lead to get a deflection shot, you just roll about 30 degrees and carry on turning - they'll miss by a mile, and they'll bleed more speed.

Now's the big point:
Practise rolling your a/c at max roll rate... the best way to do this is put the aircraft into a psuedo controllable stall condition. It bleeds speed but it will whip you around so fast onto his tail (any aircraft can do this) into a firing position as he/she/AI (I'm not desciminating against the AI ) passes. You usually have only 1 second window to get a good shot.

A human will cra,p themselves and give up after a few go's, but maybe an AI will be dumb as usual and suck in your shells.

There you go.. simple isn't it...
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:13 PM
K_Freddie K_Freddie is offline
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If you're doing this online go down to ground level.... and play there.

YOU'RE MAD SAYS EVERYONE...

You're mad to stay at height, I'd say... Why??

Because if you go down, you're reducing your opponents advantage over other team mates that will arrive on the scene. You do not have advantage anyway, so by going down, your opponent now has to look over their shoulder, distracting their attention from you.
This has a big psychological impact making your opponent impatient and prone to making mistakes, which you can take advantage of..

Of course if more of their mates arrive .. you're in the poo

Take your chances..
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:59 PM
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Lagg-3 vs 109F is a tough, tough situation even on equal terms, let alone him having initial advantage. If you are going against a skilled pilot online, you will go down great majority of cases. Quality difference between the planes is just too big. There really isn't much your Lagg-3 can do better than your opponent. Bf 109 is faster and more maneouverable, and as if that wouldn't be tough enough to deal with, it's also a better climber and better diver! Lagg has somewhat better firepower (IMO) and is more durable (again, IMO). This would make me go for a headon Russian roulette, I'm dead already anyway.
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:06 PM
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You could take a big gun Lagg 3 and learn to snipe

Or get down amongst the smoke stacks and hope they run into one ... at least you are negating the diving advantage ...
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:38 PM
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At very low level, the Lagg is fairly fast for that era of fighters. That is the only thing you have going for you, so use it. 109 pilots like to use their climb rates, and for good reason, they climb like home sick angels. Elevator authority in the 109 is not nearly as good at high speed however, they handle like a brick. The Lagg does not, and with this alone you can keep him in your sights. You can not be sucked in to giving up your speed, as this is your life in the Lagg. Enter the fight with speed, and keep it. If you are attacked from a superior position, wait for him to close, break, and try to lure him into a rolling scissors. If he doesn't commit, put the nose down a few degrees, and get your speed up.

This is not easy, any of it. If you stick to your doctrine of keeping your speed up, you will get better in the Lagg. It's just like flying the Hellcat, just more difficult since the F6F enjoys a decent speed advantage over it's main opponent. You can't let him use is greatest strengths against you. Negate those as much as possible with your tactics, not your flying!
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:37 AM
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Like Caspar said, divert your flight path from the enemy. It's pointless chasing a high 109, and being close you have less time to respond.

Fly away in a slow climb, if he's aggresive you might be able to bait him. Once he's going for you, enter a shallow dive (bringing your speed closer to his). Try to evade him with as little manouvering as possible, the more risk the better it works. For instance rolling and pulling negative G. Get him in a turnfight or a close overshoot.

If he's a coward, find another target
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:45 PM
Jumoschwanz Jumoschwanz is offline
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One fact about the AI is that it seems to easily I.D. the type of aircraft you are in and it will adjust it's tactics to suit. If your type of aircraft is quick enough so that the AI will not be able to easily use energy fighting against you, then it will resort to turning and burning, if you are however flying a slower aircraft against a much faster AI, then it will do the energy fighting thing and then indeed you can do what Caspar suggested.

As long as you fly towards a faster AI aircraft, it will fly away from you until it has gained enough altitude to turn back and make a fast firing pass on you. So if you make sure you are not going in the same direction as the AI after it makes it's pass, then instead of flying away it will quickly turn back after you.

You can exploit this to keep equal Energy with the AI. The best way is to be going head-on at it on its firing pass, make it miss with a small maneuver, then continue flying straight ahead and loop back at the AI, it will be doing the same thing at the same time. At a point suitable to you, you can either take a head on shot at it, or you can make it miss again and see if you can follow it closely enough to take a shot at it's tail.

IF you fly the 1941 Lagg vs. the 109F2 it will go into energy fighting mode, but if you fly the Mig3ud against it, it will be in turn and burn mode. I flew the 41' lagg vs. an ace 109f2 and got it down with a head-on shot, and then in the mig3 I got it as it crossed my path trying to turn and burn with me.

Online all bets are off because you will be up against such a wide variety of varying abilities. Online all you can do is assume that every enemy aircraft you come into contact with is going to be piloted by the very best. After a bit of sparring you can get an idea of your opponents abilities and tactics and adjust to suit!
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:35 AM
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Wow!!! That's a lot of helpful suggestions!! Thanks!! I love you guys!!!!!!!!!
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