Building/Buying a New PC for Cliffs of Dover? Read this!

Regarding Video cards and VRam size. A lot of what 335th_GRAthos said is corrent, but it also depends on the number of monitors you're playing on and the resolution. If you're on a typical 20" monitor, playing at 1600x900 or somewhere around that area, you're probably going to be fine with a 2GB card for all the eye candy. Going to higher resolution with everything maxed is when you start getting into the 2.4GB VRAM requirement he mentioned.

When going for the 2GB+ cards, be mindful if they are single or dual GPU cards. A dual GPU card is pretty much an SLI/XFire setup that's confined to one card, so don't expect amazing gains.

Believe it or not, the biggest limiting factor isn't hardware, but software. The game was released in what could be called a "broken state" so it's requiring more system resources and horsepower than it really should need. If you can, wait for the new Graphics engine to be released and see what happens after that. Maybe it will be the 20-50% FPS increase that Luthier was saying, but it might also be another flop. Remember those guys who bought cutting edge systems for $2000 during the summer of 2010? Well they're getting their systems spanked by people with $800 PC's now, and they're lucky to have their games playing at anything higher than medium across the board.

HOLD ON TO YOUR MONEY! You're waited damn near a year for this game to be playable, just wait another month or two! The best thing that can happen is component prices drop, you save money, and getting a better system than if you bought now.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Performance of an ATi Radeon HD7970 over a GTX580 in a Nutshell:

In average 10% more FPS. Not many FPS in Starcraft 2 or GTAIV, but 25%-33% more FPS in Serious Sam BFE and Crysis 2 with SSAA. Increased Tesselationperformance.

Powerdraw: 185Watts under power, 12Watts idling.

Fan: idle 0.7 Sone, power 4.1 Sone (AMD Fandesign, Custom ones can and will be more Silent)

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,86...fikkarte/Test/

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

That can be said every month though, at some point you'll have to pull the trigger. Computers in 2014 will be more powerful than now, and then again in 2018. Can't wait that long, who knows if the game will still be around by then?

If a player is only interested in Cliffs of Dover, then not pulling the trigger might be the best choice. If the new graphics engine is released, it's a flop, and the fans decide they've had enough, then the whole damn series might be canceled. Then what are you going to do with that $2000 system.

The advice I'm giving is to keep people from wasting money. If they only play Cliffs of Dover, then waiting until the graphics engine patch comes out is the best thing they can do. That way they can see if they need to spend a lot, or a little to get their ideal FPS. Heck, maybe their system only needs a slight upgrade because the new Graphics engine is so good. Maybe they decided trying to get a constant 60+ is not worth it because the new graphics engine only give a 5% boost in FPS.

The decision to "pull the trigger" is ultimately up to them, but financially speaking, waiting makes sense.

[Timberwolf]

Alot of people go with the Intell chipsets i5 i7 $1,000 etc Many years ago I knew nothing about computers I had a Dell optiplex P4 windows xp 2 gig nvidia 9800gt Great for wolfeinstein online and a few other 2006 games

From then till now i been upgrading and learning how to speed up and better my computer other then adding parts. Defrag Ping fps processes firewall anti virse Overclocking The list go's on

I pay for 12 mbps i get 21Mbps download on a good day 19 Avg I could pay for more but It works for me and what i do

I now run a Amd duel core II x2 215 Unlocked to 240.
8 gigs of ram duel channel DDR3 Kingston Overclockable
Lsp 750watt Psu 80 gold rated
Asus Crosshair formula V Motherboard ATX up to 32gigs 3 way SLI or crossfire
OC button Rog connect
5770 XFX DDR5 1 gig Video card
SSD master
1TB Slave
Windows 7 Home
47" LG LCD Tv for a screen

Now i know i'm lacking in some places ( Duel core and video )
However Money is tight I have a mortgage of $480,000 cars wife etc
My computer isn't my number issue But part of my hobby in my man cave
It runs CLOD just fine with teamspeak and Fraps running in the back ground and high settings with no jitters or frezze
AMD is half the cost of intell and many run par or "just" under

My biggest issue was i came into cliffs thinking it was a start and go game like fighter ace Were the most you had to do was learn about flaps and rudder and not warm up, air screws , prop pitch, ..at least have a online combat room were new people learn at there own pace .. Since April 2011 till now i been in the rooms 3 times ...Got to start and blow the engine 1 time..Anyone that tells me ..well its a combat sim then i tell you this where is the rain and fog for london? Seach lights at night heavy flak fire storms after a raid Anyways Well at anyrate i'll still think they will see this and open the game to more of the "Game" customers or a option for new gamers to play with the sim pros ..new meat sorta speaking cheers

[priller26]

I went with a Evga 580gtx with 3 gigs of Vram. It was not cheap, but I do
play other sims/games, and I think the game runs very well with this card.
I'm still adjusting various settings, to see what runs the best for me. I
just wanted to have lots of ram, and the new nvidia Kepler cards may not
be out for a while.

[Thee_oddball]

well said speculum, there is no need to go crazy.... $615 and your playing the game

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz $110
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ motherboard $130
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB $50
6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $135
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 $120
SSD 30GB $50
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20

TOTAL $615 smile

I've seen a few people trying to push the i7 recently, and I'll restate this again.

The i7 DOES NOT help you get better performance in any game. NO GAMES USE HYPERTHREADING in a manner that garners any sort of visible FPS increase. Most gamers actually suggest that you disable hyperthreading in the BIOS so it doesn't slow down your gaming.

Oh, it's $100 more than the i5 as well.

Here are some questions you should ask yourself:
Do I run a Fortune 500 database on my Gaming Rig?
Am I currently running simulations for medical research?
Am I currently farming my PC out for generic number crunching research?
Do I spend hours a day encoding/decoding audio or video?
Am I spending hours a day using the newest version of Photoshop to edit Gigapixel photos?

Notice how I said "hours" for those last two? That's because you would have to spend hours, multiple hours using those programs before you even saved a minute by using hyperthreading.

Before you drop an additional $100 on an i7 processor, you need to know that it will make ZERO difference in your Cliffs of Dover gaming. That money would be better put towards a $100 more expensive video card, or maybe a $50 more expensive video card and 2-4GB more RAM so you can create a RAM drive to help combat stuttering.

[rjb1fgc]

Just my 2cents - not very expensive and works well -CloD, ROF, X-Plane10
Decent rig for CloD - old rig updated
--- Old Parts -- from an Athlon 1800 HP machine repaired over the yrs
Mid-tower : Old HP
Joystick : Saitek EVO Force
Pedals : Saitek
Power supply : 600W OCZ
Hard Drives : WD 7200 SATA3 1 TB
WD 5400 rpm SATA 500 GB
--- New Parts -----
Motherboard : ASRock A55Pro2 AMD FM1 socket -SATA3 $ 74
CPU : AMD A6-3650 2.6Ghz $110
RAM : Gskil Ripjaws x Series 2x4GB DDR3 1600 $ 47
Sound : On-board
Cooler : Scythe SCMG-3000 $ 50
DVD drives : Lite-on SATA iHAS124-04 $ 17
Asus SATA 24B1ST $ 18
Video Card : On-Board -- Black Death Track FPS 8/34/16
Sapphire 6850 HD 1GB - BDTrack 19/57/42 $124
-- FPS in "Landscape Fly-by track high 50s mostly - VSYNC ON (set On at card)
Using most recent CCC 12.2
Most in-game settings High or Medium - Grass OFF & Forest Low
FPS - London sightseeing - mostly mid-30s to mid 40s under 1,000 ft
& upper 30s/40s over 3,000ft
Have had some game freeze-ups with the British Ground-attack mission in
Eastern France 4groups of 3 planes British - 4groups of 3planes German
- mainly if in-cloud and canopy begins to ice-up
This A6-3650 is multiplier-locked and not easily over-clocked as the FSB and video & memory transfer speeds all move together when you change the FSB which can easily be a problem. Some have gotten this stable to 3.4Ghz but I haven't tried any of that - still at 2.6Ghz.

[SEE]

Useful thread, thanks.

I have 2.7Ghz Intel E5300 duel Core with a 560Ti 2Gb and was thinking of going up to a 3.4Ghz i5 2500K but, based on your advice, will wait for the next update before making any decision. Though my ASUS MoBo will support a quad core, it is limited to a max 4Gb of RAM having only two slots. CloD/IL1946 are the only titled installed, from what you say I may be better going for an Hybrid Drive and maybe OC my current mobo.

With a quad core system, Is there any advantage in setting some programmes such as Headtracking, Saitek Profiler, Fraps to run on the unused (or under-used) cores or does the OS decide which cores to use if cores 1 and 2 are loaded by the demands of the game?