Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

Originally Posted by BlackSix

Why, if we publish the beta patches of open access?

I see. But you need guys who will pre test those betas?

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

We prepare 5 screenshots with damage model

Cool 5 I-16 and how many shots of the Fredrick

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Blacksix.....ask him is there a chance to recruit "open beta testers" out of community members from this forium? More testers more bugs noticed....khm

You, me, we are all beta testers.

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

You, me, we are all beta testers.

hah but I meant they need core testers...lets say guys who will test beta and final patches in the stages of their production, before release on forums...or they have already few ppl for that...I mean for every patch, including betas they would need ppl who will pre test it...no?

Why Im telling this? Some of us have greater knwoledge of hardware, software optimisations and tunings. Some of us hav been beta testers in other (advanced) sims....we now how and what to test....

[jimbop]

Great, thanks BlackSix.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by jimbop

Or if FMs have been addressed in an earlier question then perhaps:

Have you considered a formal bug tracking system that the community can get involved in? It is difficult to tell what bugs the devs are/are not aware of at the moment since the bug threads do not get feedback.

As an old developer / development manager I really like this one, the big problem is to open the tap for a whole world of people that are not used to working with bug tracking software and the processes needed to get it working. If the users are not strict in reporting bugs according to rules regarding all the information needed to file a bug correctly, and themselves so a thorough search so they don't enter a bug that has already been reported, the testing team will have to put a full time employee just to reject all bugs that are not relevant...

I participate in the beta for MS Flight, and all hell has broken loose in their bug tracking site as the same bugs are reported 10-20 times, and the quality of the bug reports is completely out of bounds. One in ten include steps to reproduce the bug, and one in 20 contain complete system specifications...
There are really not that many bugs I can find in Flight, but hundreds of bugs are reported over and over again in the same sloppy manner when new users join the beta...

As MG has very limited resources I think the only way to do this would be by a community managed bug tracking site where community moderators do the initial verification of bugs before they are sent to the development team.

But I really like the idea!

Mazex

[MACADEMIC]

Originally Posted by mazex

As an old developer / development manager I really like this one, the big problem is to open the tap for a whole world of people that are not used to working with bug tracking software and the processes needed to get it working. If the users are not strict in reporting bugs according to rules regarding all the information needed to file a bug correctly, and themselves so a thorough search so they don't enter a bug that has already been reported, the testing team will have to put a full time employee just to reject all bugs that are not relevant...

I participate in the beta for MS Flight, and all hell has broken loose in their bug tracking site as the same bugs are reported 10-20 times, and the quality of the bug reports is completely out of bounds. One in ten include steps to reproduce the bug, and one in 20 contain complete system specifications...
There are really not that many bugs I can find in Flight, but hundreds of bugs are reported over and over again in the same sloppy manner when new users join the beta...

As MG has very limited resources I think the only way to do this would be by a community managed bug tracking site where community moderators do the initial verification of bugs before they are sent to the development team.

But I really like the idea!

Mazex

I'd imagine community bugtracking even more complicated than for MSFlight as most likely it would have to be in Russian and English.

MAC

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Isn't it for non-for-profit projects only? I was told so in another thread.

It is for open source projects only. http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/FAQ

There are free redmine and bugzilla hosts available (ad supported) but paid would likely be more reliable.

[BlackSix]

The update will be in the evening. Probably late in the evening.
Maybe we don't have time to do everything and move to the next week.
It was a very difficult week.

[NSU]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

The update will be in the evening. Probably late in the evening.
Maybe we don't have time to do everything and move to the next week.
It was a very difficult week.

"move to the next week" i hope not

i will see the video footage of an unexpected new feature