Friday Development Update - November 18, 2011

[TomcatViP]

He was drawn in the Volga when he admitted coding the SPit FM

[ElAurens]

Tomcat, if you would stop whining so much in the chat when you fly, and realize that the 109 is not magic and cannot run down any plane by simply opening the throttle, you might gain some understanding of how and why you are getting shot down online.

No one is cheating.

The Spitfire is actually under modeled in both climb and speed.

You are a very poor judge of your energy state, much less that of your adversaries.

A Spit engaged you last night with a 3000 ft. height advantage and got you and you accuse the plane of being uber or the pilot of cheating.

You rammed my clearly disabled Hurricane that was making all of 160mph IAS because you totally misjudged the closure rate.

It's the man, not the machine sir.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Tomcat, if you would stop whining so much in the chat when you fly, and realize that the 109 is not magic and cannot run down any plane by simply opening the throttle, you might gain some understanding of how and why you are getting shot down online.

No one is cheating.

The Spitfire is actually under modeled in both climb and speed.

You are a very poor judge of your energy state, much less that of your adversaries.

A Spit engaged you last night with a 3000 ft. height advantage and got you and you accuse the plane of being uber or the pilot of cheating.

You rammed my clearly disabled Hurricane that was making all of 160mph IAS because you totally misjudged the closure rate.

It's the man, not the machine sir.

Agreed, everything except the IIa seems to be undermodeled by around 10%, but since the undermodling is equal there isn't any real advantage to anyone!

Its a poor craftsman that blames his tools.

[Vonte]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Agreed, everything except the IIa seems to be undermodeled by around 10%, but since the undermodling is equal there isn't any real advantage to anyone!

Its a poor craftsman that blames his tools.

Quite right. None of the apposing aircraft have out climbed me when I've had hight energy advantage at the start of a battle. The only exception to this was when flying a Hurricane. If you avoid vortex streaming turns (they look good), but do a series of chandels, you keep your energy state and give yourself the option of a climb or dive gataway. As for Spit or 109, I love both for different reasons. The Spitfire is a beautiful aerobatic machine, the 109 is rubbish at tight loops or turns. The Spit on the other hand has crap armament, 15.7 secs of peashooter ammo, against 6secs of 20mm and 1 minute of twin 7.9 mm ammo. Perhaps I'm a rubbish pilot but when flying a Spit, I only seem to either kill the pilot or perforate his radiator. Conversely, when I fly the 109, I can use the MG's to slow the down the enemy AC, then give them the Coup de Grâce with the cannons at collision range.
Vonte

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Vonte

Quite right. None of the apposing aircraft have out climbed me when I've had hight energy advantage at the start of a battle. The only exception to this was when flying a Hurricane. If you avoid vortex streaming turns (they look good), but do a series of chandels, you keep your energy state and give yourself the option of a climb or dive gataway. As for Spit or 109, I love both for different reasons. The Spitfire is a beautiful aerobatic machine, the 109 is rubbish at tight loops or turns. The Spit on the other hand has crap armament, 15.7 secs of peashooter ammo, against 6secs of 20mm and 1 minute of twin 7.9 mm ammo. Perhaps I'm a rubbish pilot but when flying a Spit, I only seem to either kill the pilot or perforate his radiator. Conversely, when I fly the 109, I can use the MG's to slow the down the enemy AC, then give them the Coup de Grâce with the cannons at collision range.
Vonte

I believe that most people still believe that a enemy plane must go down in flames or parts for a kill.

THAT ISN'T SO!

A plane rendered useless to fight, is a victory, even if it takes 10 min. for the plane to reach the place of its forced landing!

I, for my part, shot down 4 bombers and 1 fighter during one flight on the Atag-server with a Rotol-Hurri. One Bomber even lost a wing, but the last victory of that flight reached me well into my next flight.

[Vonte]

Originally Posted by robtek

I believe that most people still believe that a enemy plane must go down in flames or parts for a kill.

THAT ISN'T SO!

A plane rendered useless to fight, is a victory, even if it takes 10 min. for the plane to reach the place of its forced landing!

I, for my part, shot down 4 bombers and 1 fighter during one flight on the Atag-server with a Rotol-Hurri. One Bomber even lost a wing, but the last victory of that flight reached me well into my next flight.

Couldn't agree more. The good thing about Cliffs of Dover,is it rewards good piloting skills. Many a time I've nursed a badly mauled aircraft either back to base or to a outfield gear up landing. Usually using "crossed" controls and sympathetic use of throttle. I rarely "bail", if it still has some modicum of control, I'll stay with it. I get a great kick out of denying someone a kill.

[robtek]

More work for the devs in one of the patches after the next

[Qpassa]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Bad thing about the way stats are working now, if you manage to get hits on a plane, and he makes it home to land, you still get a kill. When he leaves his plane, the script everyone is using to destroy leftover planes, damages it, and then destroys it, and anyone getting damage on him gets a kill (wrongly if the guy actually made it back). Easy way to prove it is to make a single pass at every bomber in a flight, doubt you'll down them all, but after 30 minutes or so, you'll get credit for getting them all. Easy way to abuse the system.

+1 Check this please

[TomcatViP]

wall of smoke ElAUrens.

And stop referring to me I am not citing any name here even those insulting me in the chat-bar.

Just like the stupid sentence "it's not the plane it's the pilot" that show you didn't learn anything from WWII aviation history.

Regarding the ramming I did apologize for tht if ever I had to (anyway you was going down).

You 're the kind of funny guy : stepping on conveniences and then writing abt morale in the forum.

May I say that I never heard abt any apologies after all the insults for hving a different opinion of you ?

So check you own low 6 before bad mouthing abt me here.

Last but not least, If you don't see what I am jocking abt with the Spit here, I am not surprised that you look like so (comfortably ?) blind with her FM.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

wall of smoke ElAUrens.

And stop referring to me I am not citing any name here even those insulting me in the chat-bar.

Just like the stupid sentence "it's not the plane it's the pilot" that show you didn't learn anything from WWII aviation history.

Regarding the ramming I did apologize for tht if ever I had to (anyway you was going down).

You 're the kind of funny guy : stepping on conveniences and then writing abt morale in the forum.

May I say that I never heard abt any apologies after all the insults for hving a different opinion of you ?

So check you own low 6 before bad mouthing abt me here.

Last but not least, If you don't see what I am jocking abt with the Spit here, I am not surprised that you look like so (comfortably ?) blind with her FM.

You sir are the only blind person here.

I'm now done with you.