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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-15-2011, 09:39 AM
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he's telling mom!
Very good, made me laugh a bit anyway.

I'm not going to do anything if the patch doesn't deliver. But what will your reaction be if this patch is another disappointment?

All I meant by my post was at some point people's patience is going to run out. Not just with the developement of Cliffs of Dover, but also the strange relationship (if you can call it that) that 1C continues to have with it's community. The ROF team do a brilliant job of keeping their customers informed and involved, I just wish Luthier and co would do something similar.

Sorry for not pouring my admiration and thanks 1C's way. I just think certain things could be done a little better.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:01 AM
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Yeah must say this update is not much in the way of info at all really? Just a “we are working on it speech.”
@Tree you asked for DirectX 11 support so maybe this graphic overhaul is it?

In general I think Maddox Games have been guilty of trying to release a product they hoped would be capable of pleasing everyone. So instead of doing a few things well they tried to do everything well, they put an assortment of stuff together and at the last minute realized nothing was really finished. Luckily the publisher did not pull the plug on the product.
That said I am pleased they have identified key problems and are working on it.
I would have hoped they would have by now provided a software development kit (SKD) so that modders could add in the ships and plane variants missing.
Honestly I have moved on from moaning about an incomplete product or whether we are glorified beta/alpha testers.
The basic game has a lot going for it and once the mysteries of the MP and scripting are unlocked and a full SKD is released we will see this game soar.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:32 AM
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Yeah must say this update is not much in the way of info at all really? Just a “we are working on it speech.”
@Tree you asked for DirectX 11 support so maybe this graphic overhaul is it?

In general I think Maddox Games have been guilty of trying to release a product they hoped would be capable of pleasing everyone. So instead of doing a few things well they tried to do everything well, they put an assortment of stuff together and at the last minute realized nothing was really finished. Luckily the publisher did not pull the plug on the product.
That said I am pleased they have identified key problems and are working on it.
I would have hoped they would have by now provided a software development kit (SKD) so that modders could add in the ships and plane variants missing.
Honestly I have moved on from moaning about an incomplete product or whether we are glorified beta/alpha testers.
The basic game has a lot going for it and once the mysteries of the MP and scripting are unlocked and a full SKD is released we will see this game soar.
Well if DX11 is implemnted properly it would drastically improve the frame rates, so who knows.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:56 AM
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Well if DX11 is implemnted properly it would drastically improve the frame rates, so who knows.
Dude, if the code/engine is basically BAD then implementing/activating yet another element would most likely make it just collapse totally. This is not so much about what directx version they are using, there are plenty of dx10 and dx9 games that both performs and looks better. The code is basically xxxxx, now I'm sure they released the game as it was because, well they simply had to. No release, no money, no money, no game. It's harsh and not very nice to the customers (to express it politely) but I guess they just had to, it's reality, it has happened, deal with it.

You see, directx11 might improve performance but it won't fix bugs and other limitations inherent to the game engine itself. From what we've heard they are almost replacing the whole thing, which is good BUT don't be surprised when dozens of new bugs will appear.

On the note about people also asking for a 64-bit exe, this will probably improve performance but will it fix bugs? No it won't because again, it's inherent to the engine itself. I'm trying to see things from different perspectives, and the ignorants of this forum sometimes stuns me, some people barely know what they are talking about with regards to game technology and they couldn't probably even code a simple html page, yet they seem have to have vast knowledge of game programming/technology and also insight into the development team at MG.

I'm not picking sides because frankly there are just as many fools on both sides of this mess of a spectrum that we have here, I just wish people could stop expressing themselves when they don't know what they are talking about, it bothers me.

P.S I'm sure this must bother real programmers on this forum more than me.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:35 AM
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Honestly I could not code my way out of a paper bag, so point taken.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:32 AM
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Yeah must say this update is not much in the way of info at all really? Just a “we are working on it speech.”
But is that what a lot of people asked for if no other firm information was available?

guess that there's no pleasing some people!


Oh! And Luthier, Thanks for the update! Looking forward to any patches when they arrive.

In the mean time I'm going to enjoy a bit of multiplayer action in COD.


Cheers!
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:37 AM
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But is that what a lot of people asked for if no other firm information was available?

guess that there's no pleasing some people!


Oh! And Luthier, Thanks for the update! Looking forward to any patches when they arrive.

In the mean time I'm going to enjoy a bit of multiplayer action in COD.


Cheers!
Now is that CLOD or COD3 because if it is the later, Battlefield 3 is better
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this update is not much in the way of info at all really? Just a “we are working on it speech.”
which is, basically, what a lot of people were asking for.

if less forum posts = more work, then fine by me. i don't need a day-by-day report on the work.
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which is, basically, what a lot of people were asking for.

if less forum posts = more work, then fine by me. i don't need a day-by-day report on the work.
+1 on that
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:03 AM
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Who cares about relationship????

I don't want to marry the devs. ;D

All i care for is a flawless sim as soon as possible, priority on flawless.

This virtual hand-holding is awfully overrated!

If you want to fly this wonderful sim, you wait for the patch, regardless of any communication, and if you don't want to fly this sim, what are you doing here?
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