'Red Tails' New WW2 movie coming out ;)

[SIDWULF]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Just seeing the clip of the P-51 doing an Su27 style backflip is enough for me to leave well alone.

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...I would probly thin the animators know little about WW2 Aircombat. They should of fired up IL2 and did some flying to get an idea!

but the CGI looks awesome and i all my favorite aircraft are in it (Wheres the FW 190??) so i am happy there is a movie coming out that can represent air battles like never before...love CGI.

I would hope to see at least something interesting and respectable like the germans using engergy tactics...

*Edit* I just looked at the trailer again and the movment is ok....just the backflip thing is odd and obviously put in for show...

[SIDWULF]

Oh and there better not be any love story attached to try and make this movie more relatable to "people"....bah

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...

Actually, they had some current P-51 owners/air show pilots advising them.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Actually, they had some current P-51 owners/air show pilots advising them.

even if it were possible the whole idea of using a manouver that deliberately puts you pointing vertical with little airspeed defies all logic in dogfighting, if it happened it was a 1 in a million lucky move.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

even if it were possible the whole idea of using a manouver that deliberately puts you pointing vertical with little airspeed defies all logic in dogfighting, if it happened it was a 1 in a million lucky move.

Yes, it does. Most likely it was done in desperation. There is an interview with a WW2 pilot in the Dogfight series where they use a similar animation. I'm sure it's not 100% accurate, but it illustrates the situation the pilot was describing.

[nearmiss]

George Lucas is famous for what?

Star wars...

The red tails will just be more of the same, different setting and characters.

I wonder, if there is a wookie?

Anyway, don't get up tight. It's just entertainment.

Gotta have spectacular stunts, which certainly will not be as "off world" as Transformers, iron man, x-men, etc.

I'll go see it for the air combat action, can't get enough of that. I wouldn't care if the Simpsons were starring in it, if the air combat action is good.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...I would probly thin the animators know little about WW2 Aircombat. They should of fired up IL2 and did some flying to get an idea!

but the CGI looks awesome and i all my favorite aircraft are in it (Wheres the FW 190??) so i am happy there is a movie coming out that can represent air battles like never before...love CGI.

I would hope to see at least something interesting and respectable like the germans using engergy tactics...

*Edit* I just looked at the trailer again and the movment is ok....just the backflip thing is odd and obviously put in for show...

it's not. it's a feel good movie about overcoming bigotry and adversity, with air combat tacked on. actual reference to ACM will be passing and the vast majority of people (read non-pilots or aviation nuts) will have no comprehension of the historical inaccuracy, nor will they care.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

it's not. it's a feel good movie about overcoming bigotry and adversity, with air combat tacked on. actual reference to ACM will be passing and the vast majority of people (read non-pilots or aviation nuts) will have no comprehension of the historical inaccuracy, nor will they care.

+1

Ultimately the movie has to show a profit at the box office, so the script & cast are designed to appeal to as many consumers as possible. Discerning aviation nuts such as ourselves, including real pilots, air combat historians, air force veterans, etc. etc. don't exist in sufficient numbers to rake in the huge receipts needed just to break even. Lucasfilms knows we'll still go, anyway, and hold our noses at the arcade/romance/social message bits while enjoying the more credible air action sequences. Tommy can still bring Suzie Rottencrotch to a date 'n grope movie in the back seats, while Mom 'n Dad can also bring the kids (dunno what the movie rating will be).

Meanwhile, Tiefighter Georgie Lucas will be able to pay off the backers and talent and still have enough left over for his 401K's (yeah, like that's a concern! LOL).