Old patch v1.05.15950 is now live! What to expect next.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

A vault where we can play online MP scenarios without the constant strain of cheating.

Proof that there is/was cheating or take it back, this sim had enough bad-mouthing!

[TomcatViP]

No wall of smokes guys.

I love this sim and even more the freedom of speech.

SO y'd better roll away !

[robtek]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

No wall of smokes guys.

I love this sim and even more the freedom of speech.

SO y'd better roll away !

I take that as: there is no proof, only imagination.

Thanks for the clarification.

[TheGrunch]

Assuming VAC actually works as advertised, I find the whole setup hilarious.

"YEAH, I'M RUINING THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME, LOOK AT THESE CHUMPS HAHA"

<two weeks later>

"WHAT?!!?! I can't play this game online EVER AGAIN?!"

Then again, I don't think we have any idea whether it does work properly. It's not like anyone is going to sacrifice their account to find out.

[TomcatViP]

I think it's funny you put that on devs. That was not in my mind.

Even the best written code will be ever ... crackable. It's more on ppl mind. And sadly nothing can be done for that outside of education and exemplary behavior.

So I am just asking for some improvement in that field: strengthen the weak parts and setup some highly secure zone were outside third party softwares won't be available or get any plugs on the code online (there it will be possible to ctrl every lines without dispersing efforts outside of alrdy limited ressources (no HL, no Ventrillo etc...).

Cheating is a plea for online gaming. The steam approaches was good but needs some results now that users have swallowed that pill. There is no easy result with concession there.

[VAC IMHO can't work with HL the way I see that only on basic strategies grds]

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by robtek

I take that as: there is no proof, only imagination.

Thanks for the clarification.

Rob with much respect I wonder what's in your mind that you can draw such a conclusion with only the 3 lines of text I had just wrote

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Rob with much respect I wonder what's in your mind that you can draw such a conclusion with only the 3 lines of text I had just wrote

And in fairness he asked you for proof of which is ?????
I too value freedom of speech which should go along the premise of innocent until proven guilty.
If there is provable cheating going on surely you should be posting the details to the developers and the server hosting.

[TomcatViP]

No track no proof. How funny you are.

And by any standard no one (no players, no devs) will loose as much time as a cheater to build its own trick. That's why cheating will always prevail or be part of any sim. And as CoD is mature enough today that's why I think they shld build a coherent strategy against it.

That's all I said. no finger tipping. No howling at the full moon or staring at a dumb apple pretending I saw it lifting in the air.

Ohh but maybe you want to discuss the FM of such an apple ?

[Masi67]

I have had the game since the day it was released, and actually today was first time I had time to really play it.

Wov I am hooked now

-Masi

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

No track no proof. How funny you are.

And by any standard no one (no players, no devs) will loose as much time as a cheater to build its own trick. That's why cheating will always prevail or be part of any sim. And as CoD is mature enough today that's why I think they shld build a coherent strategy against it.

That's all I said. no finger tipping. No howling at the full moon or staring at a dumb apple pretending I saw it lifting in the air.

Ohh but maybe you want to discuss the FM of such an apple ?

So...without any evidence of cheating do you still think it should be a priority to put resources now into something that may not even become a problem or is it better to work on more pressing matters then deal with an exploit with a patch when they actually know what to fix?

If I recall correctly it took many years before any useable cheats (beyond gaming-the-game exploits like the RayBanJockey trim-on-a-slider type) to be used in IL2. IL2 was probably the most secure online game I've ever encountered up until somebody managed to de-compile the code, and even then it was mostly limited to play-at-your-own-risk servers.

Sure it's gonna get hacked eventually but I'm not so sure it will be much less manageable than IL2 was. And with VAC it should be even harder.