Fantastic FW 190 video

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

As long as it just sits around to be stared at, it really does not matter what is under the hood as people won't see it anyways. For a museum a replica does just as fine. Flying comes with a risk, but it is the only way to actually get a real impression of a machine that was made for solely for this, flying. But that is just my opinion.

On the other hand:
A replica would look, feel, and fly the same - only without the risk of breaking apart in midair.
If you want to avoid this risk you'll have to strip it and put it back together - you'll basically end up with a replica. Bad decision.
The best choice therefore would be no to touch the body at all and let it rest in a museum.
Then again, on static display it doesn't need a working engine either - a flying replica would. It would, imho, even turn a kitplane like the Flugwerk into an original.
Why not put a clone in there, in make the engine available for other projects(with better/safer) airframes?

But afaik, there are no other projects which could make use that beast....

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by swiss

On the other hand:
A replica would look, feel, and fly the same - only without the risk of breaking apart in midair.
If you want to avoid this risk you'll have to strip it and put it back together - you'll basically end up with a replica. Bad decision.
The best choice therefore would be no to touch the body at all and let it rest in a museum.
Then again, on static display it doesn't need a working engine either - a flying replica would. It would, imho, even turn a kitplane like the Flugwerk into an original.
Why not put a clone in there, in make the engine available for other projects(with better/safer) airframes?

But afaik, there are no other projects which could make use that beast....

Fair point. Mind you though, a Jumo or DB engine are very complex and made of rare components, in addition to that they have an extremely low TBO (last time I talked to a German guy working on a DB605, he mentioned something as shocking as a 50 hours TBO!), so maintenance wise you would need a plethora of spares, either originals or custom made, with prices skyrocketing and infinite ballaches for certification.

The stuff the guys at thevintageaviator.nz do is inspiring to say the least, but they work on extremely simpler engines.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Fair point. Mind you though, a Jumo or DB engine are very complex and made of rare components, in addition to that they have an extremely low TBO (last time I talked to a German guy working on a DB605, he mentioned something as shocking as a 50 hours TBO!), so maintenance wise you would need a plethora of spares, either originals or custom made, with prices skyrocketing and infinite ballaches for certification.

The stuff the guys at thevintageaviator.nz do is inspiring to say the least, but they work on extremely simpler engines.

I would, if possible, strip the block from all internals(you can use those original parts for resto of other engines with the purpose of static display or demo runs) and rebuild to modern specs - remanufacture the parts from modern materials.
Titanium sleeves, ceramic bearings, hey - whatever it takes. That beast would still sound the same I guess and nothing else matters.
(You probably would end up with a few extra hp too, that means you could fly it with even less throttle -> increased TBO)

[Crumpp]

you have sources for that?

Yeah, me. You have walk past the Go-229 to get to the archive reading room at the old Garber Facility.

You can walk up and examine it as close you want too.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by swiss

I would, if possible, strip the block from all internals(you can use those original parts for resto of other engines with the purpose of static display or demo runs) and rebuild to modern specs - remanufacture the parts from modern materials.
Titanium sleeves, ceramic bearings, hey - whatever it takes. That beast would still sound the same I guess and nothing else matters.
(You probably would end up with a few extra hp too, that means you could fly it with even less throttle -> increased TBO)

Unfortunately that's sci-fi at the moment

Remaking such components on a single stock with such materials is stuff that not even a Formula 1 team can afford.. as that is not enough, the components are so over-engineered that if you damaged the crankshaft, it would take a lot of time, money and efforts to remake one, simply cos we don't have those tools anymore.

Merlin engines can benefit of a plethora of spare parts, both from old stocks and brand new, because there's a market for them, but who would be able to measure, machine and certificate a piston for a Jumo on a budget?

Again, (a lot of) money can do the trick, but good luck in finding an investor that would spend so much on a piece that the average people considers Nazi memorabilia..