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[IvanK]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Come on insuber there is nothing historical about this it just doesnt work well atm that's a simple fact, the auto prop we have in the e4 is terrible i was doing circles around a guy that had it enabled... he just couldn't keep up with me and since there was no button set he couldn't turn it off until he landed.

I have been using the auto prop since it arrived but until it's fixed I'm back to using manual there is something wrong with it if I can go 50kmh faster without even trying... If I did try I would be around 100kmh faster than someone using the auto prop wtf!!!

@madfish clearly this game is too hard for you so go buy hawx2 that seems like the perfect game for you.

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

[MoGas]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.

Because the autoprop is not working! In many cases you are stuck at 2000RPM or lower in a climb, and finally in the level flyt too, and if you use "notleistung" it is given you even lower RPM, and not rising it for the proper RPM what would be needed now.

As Krupi said, if youre wingy dosent have the manual switch key on his joystick or keyboard, you fly away from him, simple.

I had many situation, where I followed E4 flyers with a E1, where I had to ask "what is going on with youre speed" and the answer was "FULL THROTTLE" lol.

[David198502]

Originally Posted by MoGas

Because the autoprop is not working! In many cases you are stuck at 2000RPM or lower in a climb, and finally in the level flyt too, and if you use "notleistung" it is given you even lower RPM, and not rising it for the proper RPM what would be needed now.

As Krupi said, if youre wingy dosent have the manual switch key on his joystick or keyboard, you fly away from him, simple.

I had many situation, where I followed E4 flyers with a E1, where I had to ask "what is going on with youre speed" and the answer was "FULL THROTTLE" lol.

+1...
use manual prop pitch properly, and you leave every 109 which is using auto prop behind you...poor guys who are not aware of that
i prefer the E4 because of its Minengeschoss, but always fly with manual prop pitch in every situation.flying with the E1 before we got the E4 got me used to it anyway.
auto prop is definitely bugged

[ZaltysZ]

Auto works fine for me. However, I always take off on manual, and engage auto only at max throttle and max permissible RPM. If I engage it earlier, it simply sticks later.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

Excellent idea!

@Krupi: Krupi, old bean, when you're done with that would you mind doing the same with the Spitfires 1 & 1a, and perhaps the two Hurri models as well? Might as well throw in the Spit 11a so we can see how over modelled THAT is. We'll have a bottle of claret (or what's left of it) waiting for you in the mess -- the rest of us will have long headed for bed............

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by IvanK

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

And I shall try to remember not to finish off this passable bottle of red wine.......

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Okay John, Snapper I will test this when I get home

In my tests as I suggested:

"How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...6&postcount=57

I get the exact same end game speed whether in AUTO or Manual. 440-450Kmh IAS.

There is NO way I can get 50Kmh better in manual.

What you obviously can do in manual is set up your own ATA/RPM combinations that might be beneficial in say a 1.25ATA climb. AUTO at 1.25ATA throttle position will give you 2100RPM where you might do better manually selecting 2300RPM. Personally I use MANUAL for any long term type situations with less than max throttle position. In Combat or any time I have full throttle AUTO.

RPM is tied to throttle position NOT ATA. Below FTH ATA is also directly proportional to throttle position.

[JG52Krupi]

I will do it tonight didnt get the chance last night.

P.s. I'm sure some can get ~500kmh out of a 109 buts it's quite hard.

Also who flies with rads full open!!!! I will just do it with the rad settings I always use.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

I will do it tonight didnt get the chance last night.

P.s. I'm sure some can get ~500kmh out of a 109 buts it's quite hard.

Also who flies with rads full open!!!! I will just do it with the rad settings I always use.

430 hrs of almost exclusive 109 flying. No way to achieve 500 kph IAS permanently in level flight. Not even with emergency power. With a slight dive its possible. But as soon as you go level you can maintain the speed a small time but it WILL drop below. Maybe 470-480 is possible WITH emergency power.

Winger