The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Jimmy! You are a very naughty boy!

Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde

The whole battle was probably one of those "false flag" things that you hear guys with tinfoil taped to their heads talking about.

If you listen to wiki leeks you deserve to believe every thing that you do!

Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde

You know what I mean, the government just let the Luftwaffe pound London so that the populace would hate the Nazis more. I bet that MI5 were planting most of the bombs themselves.

MI5 are public servants! Logic would have told us that they would have been too busy waiting for the Tea Trolly to wheel past their desks to go and plant bombs anywhere.

Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde

I'm also going to speculate that, had the Nazis invaded, the long lost kingdom of Avalon would have probably re-emerged from the mist and a glorious host of Arthurian warriors, clad in resplendent, glittering armour would have sallied forth to smite the beastly Huns and turn the tide in favour of their beloved Chrisendom.

This may have been the case but since Henry the 8th renounced the pope and set himself up as head of the Church of England I'm afraid those Authurian warriors probably have better things to do! (See my note about MI5!)

Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde

By the way, Hitler was a reptilian you know, that whole silly moustache thing was just a ploy to divert attention from his peculiar lizard tongue.

Unfortunately without DNA evidence your 'V' theory cannot be validated!

Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde

*Disclaimer*

This post is in no way intended to belittle, demean or otherwise deride the imaginative and somewhat plausible contemplative fantasies contained in this thread. It's just that it's Sunday afternoon and the author is in a slightly bemused frame of mind. His primary motivation here is simply to push this behemoth of a thread just one post closer to the 100 page barrier and, hopefully, make a few people laugh along the way.

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Ditto!

[JimmyBlonde]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Jimmy! You are a very naughty boy!



If you listen to wiki leeks you deserve to believe every thing that you do!



MI5 are public servants! Logic would have told us that they would have been too busy waiting for the Tea Trolly to wheel past their desks to go and plant bombs anywhere.



This may have been the case but since Henry the 8th renounced the pope and set himself up as head of the Church of England I'm afraid those Authurian warriors probably have better things to do! (See my note about MI5!)



Unfortunately without DNA evidence your 'V' theory cannot be validated!

Ditto!

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[raaaid]

i think the brilliant tactic by churchill was porovcking hitler into bombing his cities( did the luftwaffe really got their bombs wrong when the 1st city was bombed or was it staged?)

it deviated attention form main targets and he new the war of terro actually contrary to its intend boosts morale

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theres no stronger weapon than the moral that gives knowing your self righteous and the divine justice that that brings

[MB_Avro_UK]

Didn't Galland say something about the Battle of Britain from his perspective did not end? And that the invasion of Russia just changed priorities?

After reading Spitfire on my Tail by a German Me109 pilot, I get the impression that Galland as a tactition was not highly regarded.

For instance, Galland opposed the use of radios in 109s during the BoB due to their weight penalty.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[MD_Titus]

Steinhilper seemed to have a rather low opinion of galland as a tactician... and as a flight leader. The luftwaffe aces tended to put a kill above the poor katschmareks.

Wasn't the main issue with radios that the fighters and bombers had different crystald, leading to tragedy as missions were called off, and bombers left unescorted. in one case the fighters received the recall, butdespite aerobatics and the fighter formation leader's best efforts to get the bombers to turn back they advanced aline and got torn to shreds.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

Steinhilper seemed to have a rather low opinion of galland as a tactician... and as a flight leader. The luftwaffe aces tended to put a kill above the poor katschmareks.

Wasn't the main issue with radios that the fighters and bombers had different crystald, leading to tragedy as missions were called off, and bombers left unescorted. in one case the fighters received the recall, butdespite aerobatics and the fighter formation leader's best efforts to get the bombers to turn back they advanced aline and got torn to shreds.

As much as I like Steinhilper's book,I still do believe he had a somehow narrow view of the war,since he spent most of it as an escaping POW. Galland had his quirks,but together with Mölders he had a great understanding of aerial warfare, millions of times better than the RLM. I often wonder how Möelders would have been like, had he not died prematurely.

[SNAFU]

Reading the "First and the Last" and other books like the mentioned "Their most dangerous enemies", "Spitfire", "The BoB" Marce l Lullian, "Operation Eagle" Len Deigthon..., I tend to put Galland rahter in the education of the days between WWI and its remains.

I guess Galland was still in his hype of the "easy" days in Spain with "Legion-Condor,-we-just-waggel-our-wings-and-everything-is-right". He was opposing the use of radios in fighters (and I can understand the KISS/S philosophy), but for opposing the first sohisticated air defence, I guess he was not prepared nor was any of the LW stuff, hanging to the beliefs of knight duells. Even if he understood the basics of aerial warfare, he didn´t seem to be great teamplayer. And the team play was, what made the RAF and the FC strong, or not?

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

As much as I like Steinhilper's book,I still do believe he had a somehow narrow view of the war,since he spent most of it as an escaping POW. Galland had his quirks,but together with Mölders he had a great understanding of aerial warfare, millions of times better than the RLM. I often wonder how Möelders would have been like, had he not died prematurely.

granted, although i think the impressions he gives are relevant early on in the war. möelders would've had a better handle later on latter war tactics as well i suspect...

the team play thing could be linked to the luftwaffe ethos of individual glory and the cult of the individual, i guess.