The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[bongodriver]

you see? That's what I mean, how can you call that an unbiased assessment? But using your terms: I think the fight gave a bloody nose to both of them..

The Brits got their nose bloodied in France, I just assumed that was the 'given', the BOB was where the Grmans got a taste and it didn't feel so good, they tried for 3 months with one tactic which failed and switched to another......that failed, no bias....that is what happened, any colurfull Nationalistic tones used in the description don't change those facts.

yes, every armed forces does it, it's called damage assessment. No charities involved...

Quite....and when the predictions are proving a bit 'off' it's time to change plans

your empire logic to other countries.

Still not making sense, please elaborate with a clear example of this.

man, you're really touchy are you? Why is that supposed to be a little jab or derogatory?!
The Germans were the main European empire, but nowadays they don't think in those terms anymore. Many in the UK still do it, probably thinking that the status of "Kingdom" means they still are an empire. Again, there's nothing wrong with the empire mentality, it's just a bit anachronistic.

Touchy?.....maybe, when you hear this kind of crap over and over it wears the patience somewhat, many in the UK is not everyone in the UK, The United Kingdom existed before the empire, the empire doesn't exist any more.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The Brits got their nose bloodied in France, I just assumed that was the 'given', the BOB was where the Grmans got a taste and it didn't feel so good, they tried for 3 months with one tactic which failed and switched to another......that failed, no bias....that is what happened, any colurfull Nationalistic tones used in the description don't change those facts.

You just don't get what I mean, I don't know how to explain it anymore, Bewolf, care to help me on this one please?

Quite....and when the predictions are proving a bit 'off' it's time to change plans

a "change of plans" doesn't mean "losing a battle".

Still not making sense, please elaborate with a clear example of this.

what is it that is not quite clear, the concept of empire mentality?

Touchy?.....maybe, when you hear this kind of crap over and over it wears the patience somewhat, many in the UK is not everyone in the UK, The United Kingdom existed before the empire, the empire doesn't exist any more.

yes, but it's this dwelling over and over on the glories of the past that is a bit silly, and, as pointed by Bewolf's article, shows the insecurity of this society.

Besides, don't you think for a minute that the continuous celebration of the "victory" on the Battle of Britain could be somehow perceived as passive-aggressive by the Germans of today? And I'm not talking about the remembering of the pilots or victims, I'm talking about all the Battle of Britain low quality jibber jabber, with that air of arrogance and presumption as if it was fought yesterday?