IL2 and Sound Modding

[X]

I am a little weary of the constant refrain that the mods have zotzed the sim forever for online. How can the the people who enjoy "Med Air War" and "Over Flanders Fields" play online if their massively modded items can't exclude non-regulation mods from servers? As I understand from the MAW forum, anybody trying to play with unofficial mods on their MAW program gets automatically plinked by the server, and they warn people to keep their personal copies of MAW with their own fixes separate from their online version. I am getting the impression the onliners are simply taking their marbles out of the game because they lost on the mod matter. Oleg left so many things undone which were not difficult fixes (as we now know): mirror for the frasting Hellcat, getting rid of the obnoxious nav lights on the AI so that night air battles can occur, 6 DOF (the doing of which proved possible despite countless official claims to the contrary), and on and on. I cannot help but wonder if Oleg was conducting a Darwinian intelligence test: are you going to be a dunce and passively accept you will never have what this sim needs, or are you going to pass the intelligence test and fix the sim yourself? I find his silence on the matter fascinating.

[RaVe]

In response to there new post..>> http://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946

I replied and was ban

"Great job ...
The sad thing is most all(NOT ALL) of you are arcade flying noobs. You don't know better.



This isn't counter strike, or half life, or rainbow 6 they all are for 11 year old kids now due to mod fools support.

Are you trying for improving on the Sim? Or to feed your ego and make $ ...
by letting the cat out of the bag.
you have opened Pandora's box.......


You have trashed this Sim ."


I got ban for that.. Censorship again

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by RaVe

In response to there new post..>> http://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946

I replied and was ban

"Great job ...
The sad thing is most all(NOT ALL) of you are arcade flying noobs. You don't know better.



This isn't counter strike, or half life, or rainbow 6 they all are for 11 year old kids now due to mod fools support.

Are you trying for improving on the Sim? Or to feed your ego and make $ ...
by letting the cat out of the bag.
you have opened Pandora's box.......


You have trashed this Sim ."


I got ban for that.. Censorship again

LMFAO you sound surprised you got a ban for posting that? Are you trying for a new record,first banned at ubi,now AAA,where next?

[han freak solo]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

LMFAO you sound surprised you got a ban for posting that? Are you trying for a new record,first banned at ubi,now AAA,where next?

Raven should try fragdolls next. He's got talent. Really.

[LEXX]

Uther the irony in that is Awsum!

"11 year old" gamer behavior should be banned, as it should be banned in all teh servers.


X::

I am getting the impression the onliners are simply taking their marbles out of the game because they lost on the mod matter.

How? A growing number of Onliners are sharing the winnings with Offliners, beginning to mod up their marbles. If you mean the mods are destabilizing the entire old FB/PF community, just like the gasoline engine destabilized the entire horse and buggy world, well yes. New and Used horse/buggy salesmen preached "the end of the world is near!"

Perhaps MAW or whatever has a mature Online community...less numbers maybe...dunno. As TargetWare grows very slowly, it has been seeing some hostile Online gamer behavior. We observed greater acceptance of the new modding at the simhq, which is, as even Oleg found out, in general a more mature Online simming community than we have seen at the ubi.

[RAF_Magpie]

Originally Posted by RaVe

In response to there new post..>> http://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1946

I replied and was ban

"Great job ...
The sad thing is most all(NOT ALL) of you are arcade flying noobs. You don't know better.



This isn't counter strike, or half life, or rainbow 6 they all are for 11 year old kids now due to mod fools support.

Are you trying for improving on the Sim? Or to feed your ego and make $ ...
by letting the cat out of the bag.
you have opened Pandora's box.......


You have trashed this Sim ."


I got ban for that.. Censorship again

Your ban - might just have something to do with calling everyone there idiots dont ya think...?

And nice EDIT for this place with the "(NOT ALL)", and "Are you trying for improving on the Sim? Or to feed your ego and make $ ...
by letting the cat out of the bag.
you have opened Pandora's box......." thing...

Great JOB IDIOTS
great job the sad thing is most all of you are arcade flying noobs.
so you dont know better.
this isnt counter strike or half life.


you have trashed this sim you fools

Considering it was your FIRST post there, and without fail, tried to provoke it. Personally I am not surprised with a ban being inforced.

If people just deliberatly try to provoke, or stir, dont be surprised that you get banned from anywhere. Keep your name calling to yourself, and elsewhere.

In addition to this, why continue stirring this crock-pot full of sh!t anyway? Its just getting boring, and really isnt achieving anything....

[RaVe]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

OK... but I am on no high horse.. and I get sick and tired of people those kinds of comments have been going on long enough on this and we need to move on.

I know your trying to help keep the peace BC. Yes im a hot head... I'm plane spoken.
I call em like I see them.

I just don't want people to forget about what is happening so I make lots of noise.
if we settle for enough is enough move on then it gets to were we are now...
A trashed online sim..
Nobody is playing the same sim now its not skill against skill ,
its what mod gives a better advantage.
The best part about the sim is dead ......Its file integrity.
I don't want to see it happen to SOW...

why is CFS dead?......MODS....

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

Your ban - might just have something to do with calling everyone there idiots dont ya think...?

I stand by my post, Its true.
Congradulations on a great service to the Sim..
~S~ RaVe

[Bearcat]

Rave I understand where you are coming from... and my stance is less about keeping the peace as trying to find a solution... Call me a naive optomist but I think this can be fixed.. especially of the ones doing the work have help from 1C. I understand that 1C may not have the time to do it.. but surely some of those other talented folks who have the skills and the where withall to do the right thing can come up[ with a solution to this mess along the lines mentioned in a previous post. As bad as it is we should try to move from the way things are and concentrate on how we would like it to be and try to move it there. It isnt impossible...

[RAF_Magpie]

Originally Posted by RaVe

I stand by my post, Its true.
Congradulations on a great service to the Sim..
~S~ RaVe

I understand your POV, but heres the kicker:

YOU DONT HAVE TO BE INSULTING, OR ABUSIVE to get a point accross dude. Its just rather unbecoming.

[X]

Those who belong to the "Oleg will fix this school" have, perhaps, missed the point. There is not likely to be a fix from above, but one worked out by the users. If MAW can be designed to lock out unofficial mods, so can IL-2. Oleg is fully committed to BOBSOW which promises to square the circle for both online and offline users. Why would he waste precious resources on IL-2? I think he has turned it over to the users to work out how to keep their online competition version alive. It's pathetic to see people perpetually bleating for a dispensation from Oleg instead of thinking for themselves.