Red Sands Extreme Mod

[Fatt_Shade]

Red sands extreme already have army shop in it, i think you should completly separate this mod (RSE), or unistal red sand then add RSE because old army shop mod you had will overlap with this addon,and maybe cause problems. If you have time read all posts here some ppl found couple mised things (add new units to item, or skill to effect them and such).
Just my thought, but anyway you need to start new game to changes here to take effect.

[Adanedhel]

@Fatt_Shade Thx for the tip. I tried to clean up installation but it didn't work, so i suppose, reinstall is what i need.

Edit: Still, it doesn't work for me After clean installation of red sand 1.3, and extreme, no army shop item in inventory.

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

some ppl found couple mised things (add new units to item, or skill to effect them and such).
Just my thought, but anyway you need to start new game to changes here to take effect.

Originally Posted by Adanedhel

I just found ring of ancient kings:
+500Leadership,
-10% Leadership requirement for 5th lvl units
+1 morale for 5th lvl units
morale bonus works with every 5th lvl unit i have, but -10% requirement doesn't work at all

If you meant this i knew that somehow;PP

[Fatt_Shade]

@langtu87 Yea, sry i totally forgot about tower in debir island. Nice item rolls for early game 5th lvl
Just checked your save, and you rly got lucky with items here , not so much high int mage as for support mage build, thx for save.
@zhaozhilong For no prob game with orc saboteurs you must have 1,3,1 patch and fixed their bug in special_attacks.lua , any other way i dont know. Even if you get them to 1Hp you must kill them with AOE attacks, because if you hit them with direct attack like firebolt/any ranged unit it will still crash. So use dragon dive/fireball fire rain and such spells near them.
@Adanedhel Sry i meant you`ll have all race units on Debir island, mixed that with army shop item. My mistake here, sry again( you meant item that you can use to buy units you already have in your army right ?).
As for misses here are some, but you should read my other posts in this tread to see what i`ve found so far :
1)atoms - gorguana_spirit.txt change movetype=-2 to movetype=0
- maelstrom.txt in headhunter skill add runemage,ogre chieftain, harl (same units add to titan iron fist skill)
2) config - morale add sinister for +1 moral from black knight , add maelstrom to +1 moral from griffin2 , and next to griffin type harl so he also gives moral to humans because in his description says Regal, but he doesn`t give +1moral to humans.
3) config/companions - in triger for all 4lvl`s add titan and asmodeo for +crit% bonus since they both are archer units.
. . .
There are more, but since this mod was made by players ofc there is something missed. Ofc I dont judge just try to help to fix this things that may cause problems to other. Have fun with RSE

Question ppl : is there pet.lua file in this mod ? Like bladeking77 made in his adventure mod, to separate pet dragons skills upgrades from rest of files ? I wanted to add more lvl`s to pet, because with this 300% stronger enemy he`ll get to max lvl very fast.

[langtu87]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

@langtu87 Yea, sry i totaly forgot about tower in debir island. Nice item rolls for early game 5th lvl
Just checked your save, and you rly got lucky with items here , not so much high int mage as for support mage build, thx for save.
@zhaozhilong For no prob game with orc saboteurs you must have 1,3,1 patch and fixed their bug in special_attacks.lua , nay other way i dont know. Even if you get them to 1Hp you must kill them with AOE attacks, because if you hit them with direct attack like firebolt/any ranged unit it will still crach. So use dragon dive/fireball fire rain and such spells near them.
@Adanedhel Sry i meant you`ll have all race units on Debir island, mixed that with army shop item. My mistake here, sry again( you meant item that you can use to buy units you already have in your army right ?).
As for misses here are some, but you should read my other posts in this tread to see what i`ve found so far :
1)atoms - gorguana_spirit.txt change movetype=-2 to movetype=0
- maelstrom.txt in headhunter skill add runemage,ogre chieftain, harl (same units add to titan iron fist skill)
2) config - morale add sinister and dictator for +1 moral form black knight , add maelstrom to +1 moral from griffin2 , and next to griffin type harl so he also gives moral to humans because in his description says Regal, but he doens give moral to humans.
3) config/companions - in triger for all 4lvl`s add titan and asmodeo for +crit% bonus since they both are archer units.
. . .
There are more, but since this mod was made by players ofc there is something missed. Ofc I dont judge just try to help to fix this things that may cause problems to other. Have fun with RSE

Question ppl : is there pet.lua file in this mod ? Like bladeking77 made in his adventure mod, to separate pet dragons skills upgrades from rest of files ? I wanted to add more lvl`s to pet, because with tihs 300% stronger enemy he`ll get to max lvl very fast.

Well, I will stop use any lev 5 unit, that will make my game more interesting.
IMO, the mod should remove all 5th lev unit at first 4 island. (With 1xBK, Troll, EMD or any lev 5 will owner first 3 island, even with unit > 3,5k lds). If using 1 slot 5th lev, the dargon will lev up quickly.With maelstrom, after a battle you can gain 600-1k exp for dragon (maeltron one hit can get 20-25 rage) and I'm finish a quest to have ablity fly for hero easily. So I think with 5th lev like maelstrom, phoniex, titan; player can gain access after some diffculty quest and the price for them should be x10 (like maelstrom = 400k gold)

[Fatt_Shade]

Well langtu87 here`s what playing is all about. Why make game to give you 5th lvl units after first 4 islands if you can decide yourself not to use them untill verona Problem fixed It`s decision every player make him/herself to what kind of build want and go with it without kiting(cheating), and try to play as best possible.
I did no loss impossbile with and without kiting, and without any kind of scouting of elon/nameless/reha on 1st lvl hero it`s much-much-much harder. It just doesn`t seem ok to go on late game islands to pick up all treasure/lds banners/no fight quests if i`m 1 lvl hero.
I`m not blaming but in your save amulet of ilumination quest +250lds you did kiting, same goes for rusty ancor map. Trust me going 1 island at time with only units you have available is much more challenging.
For higher price for 5th lvl units warrior/paladin would get screwed big time because they can lead much larger army then mage and will have to buy them all. Mage on other hand can buy/call of collosus some 5th lvl`s and with sacrifice just replanish his army when needed(last game i wanted all dragon army with mage hero, had only 2 red dragon eggs and no other way to buy them, i finished game with 17 of them with sacrifice).
Try this idea (i`m doing it in game i already started) : warrior hero, all 4th lvl melee units, Kotor companion(new assassin after defeating him) and if you`r lucky 2 battle axe items, long spear (+2att +15%dmg to orcs) and drill. Units i picked : paladin,orc veteran,orc saboteur,assassin,knight. Mass haste is a must here, but what can you do no build is perfect All units will have +65%dmg,orc`s +80%, assassin/saboteurs +85%, it`s like leading 70-75% bigger army. If you want go with Moldok companion kick assassins and take orc/orc hunter instead it`s also great game. Either way you have 26-35dmg paladins+second wind for some1, orc veterans with their scoulding skill 46-55 dmg
If you dont want to lead paladins for resurection, take demon/executioner/dictator/archdemon/legendaryphoenix but here you`ll have lower dmg% bonus (battle axe wont work on 5th lvl units), but unlimited retaliations +demons default +30%dmg to units 1-4lvl will do hilarious amount on crit and demon have nice items(thong,bracelet fury,pandemonium mask,-lds% . . .)and easily to resurect now with phoenix.
I mentioned your mage will go support with lack of high int items on first 4 islands(maybe later will be better choice), but consider your couple maelstroms with double cast and their dmg output and same lvl warrior with counterstrike/frenzy skills and much higher att. Maelstorms will dish out high crit% per hit and 4 retaliations/turn.
Every build you think off will have some perks, but also some missed things, and that`s why this game is interesting every time you get some new idea for problems you encountered before

[yujy]

Found a problem with paladin quest for extra skill (warriors of light something).
I've killed priest and inquisitor and nothing (in the quest log i got 0 kills).\

PS As for the % life bonus i'm still trying to figure it out. I can't really pinpoint the string were the static number turns into %. I'll keep trying and will see.

[langtu87]

I have a rune staff. The description show I can upgarde it by use rune. But I don't know how to do this. Any idea?

[Fatt_Shade]

@yujy Yea hp% isn`t simple as i thought would be, just changing abs hp bonus to in percents wont mean much, there is more to this. If you figure it out tell rest of us since this 45bonus hp to 1-2lvl units is just too much.
For paladin quest no idea, never play her, but i know mage and warrior works fine
@langtu87 You need to carry staff in battles, after every battle oyu had rune staf in weapon slot there will be message `willingnes to invest rune xx%` when reach 100% you can place runes by choice might(R)/mind(G)/magic(B) and get different item. Check in config/items.txt which option would be best for you because there is many only 1 rune, or 2 or 3 and different combination (all in all 20 combinations) mean different bonus.
And in your save file you posted hod did you take 3rd lvl absolute balance, without glory/power of spirit/adrenalin/diplomacy ?
Your config/skills.txt file is f...d up, this is how it`s supposed to look like :
equilibrium {
pos=1,4
deps=accuracy,diplomacy
script=skill_equilibrium
pic=skillicon2_18_
name=skill_equilibrium_caption
hint_header=skill_equilibrium
hint_text=skill_equilibrium_hint
levels {
1 {
deps=1,1
runes=1,8,1
trade=
pars=+4
}
2 {
deps=1,1
runes=1,10,1
trade=
pars=+8
}
3 {
deps=1,1
runes=1,12,1
trade=
pars=+12
}
}
}
Found couple of more misses : in exp_system/exp_system_cfg.txt for healer class add monstera,legendaryphoenix