Post made by Jason at Sim HQ

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

For those that were/are still under the belief that CLOD was financed by Ubisoft then read this below, especially Chivas who as been on my case about this for a long time.


Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason

I'm sorry, but I need to say something because your comments are not correct.

1.) Luthier is a long-time friend of mine and you are smearing him with no proof or knowledge of what really happened that caused the less than stellar release of CLOD. Oleg didn't hand Luthier anything. Luthier was asked by 1C to try to finish the project after Oleg was, depending who you talk to, relieved of duty by 1C or he quit 1C. You make the call. Luthier is making the best of a bad situation and he is a good guy and from what I can tell a good manager. My point is you can't blame him for the release or bad decisions that were forced upon him by others. He was given 12 months to correct 6 years of bad decisions made by others. A good analogy is blaming me for every decision made regarding ROF before my company took over. Coming from someone who had to take over a not so great situation I know what he is going through.

2.) Again, you see to blame Ubi for all this. Why don't you ask 1C if $8 million and 7 years was enough time and money for a team to eventually be held accountable for there work and produce a product? Ubi is not quite the monster they are being portrayed as. Again, see my comments about Oleg's departure. Only Duke Nukem' can have a never ending dev cycle and hell even that got released eventually. Bringing Oleg back isn't going to solve anything. 1C loves when you blame Ubi. 1C was the day to day manager and owners of IL-2 franchise, not to the mention the primary funding source so why aren't they held accountable? Some of you hold Oleg and 1C up like some sort of gods and people who can do no wrong which is foolish.

I'm not going to say anymore, but what you've said about Luthier isn't fair to him. There is no need to be an Oleg or 1C apologist.

Jason

Anyone that was surprised by the information that Jason shared really have to learn to read between the lines Of course it was 1C that pushed the game on the market after getting tired of financing the project for years...

/mazex

[GF_Mastiff]

Well maybe when 777 studio puts out their WWII fighter sim, then we will see.
I give up on 1C and getting this IL2 sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover version off the ground. Maybe if in 18 months, it might look and be as good as Rise Of Flight.

until then see y'all next year around Christmas time is what I'm going to estimate.

So I'm sticking to IL2 1946 Forgotten battles, and the new mods improvements.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

Well maybe when 777 studio puts out their WWII fighter sim, then we will see.
I give up on 1C and getting this IL2 sturmovik Cliffs Of Dover version off the ground. Maybe if in 18 months, it might look and be as good as Rise Of Flight.

the only thing RoF does well, is as you put it "look good" (and close to the ground at low altitude it doesnt even do that, its flat sterile texture slabs with very little detail).granted the planes look pretty enough, but they use mostly canned flightmodels that are scripted (with a splash of real physics), the game was released empty and incomplete, they make you pay for every single plane, the world you fly in is empty and sterile, etc...

still, lets not digress the thread, suffice to say that RoF is nothing much to aim for in my book compared to the lofty hights CoD/BoB was aiming for (or even in comparison to some of the aspects of the old il2, mod'ed or unmod'ed)

Originally Posted by mazex

Anyone that was surprised by the information that Jason shared really have to learn to read between the lines Of course it was 1C that pushed the game on the market after getting tired of financing the project for years...

/mazex

+100, thats the way mosts sensible people see it, Ubi took a lot of blame but like Jason says the blame was unwarranted. 1C financed the project not UBI.